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  • From: Bob Ball <ball AT umich.edu>
  • To: Ilija Vukotic <ivukotic AT uchicago.edu>, Giordon Stark <gstark AT cern.ch>
  • Cc: tier3-users <tier3-users AT lists.uchicago.edu>, Lincoln Bryant <lincolnb AT uchicago.edu>, Miles Wu <mileswu AT uchicago.edu>, atlas-connect-l <atlas-connect-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Atlas-connect-l] [Tier3-users] [xAOD] GNU Scientific Library on Tier3 and Connect
  • Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 15:11:31 -0500

Actually, when I look closely, I find the gsl rpms are installed only at the UM Worker Nodes of AGLT2, probably because they are needed by the co-located UM Tier3 software base. 

bob

On 11/6/2014 2:44 PM, Ilija Vukotic wrote:
Hi,

I would recommend we refrain from installing GSL. When it will be widely needed it will come with AnalysisBase. If needed for some special test by you Giordon, we could add it to our Tier3 only.
And I would not really worry about AnalysisBase 2.0.16 as it was crashing on every single read test done by Johannes E.  

Cheers,
Ilija

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On Nov 6, 2014, at 12:28 , Giordon Stark <gstark AT cern.ch> wrote:

I just heard from Ulla on one point of this:
"Hi Giordon,
As you probably have realized this is not by Design but a nasty consequence of the  way the new root versions are setup.
Hence we don't know this at the time we announce the release  (I routinely test the release on non-linux mashines but as it appears this cluster is well-equipped).
I am working on a known-issues list on  the  AnalysisBase wiki.  Many thanks for the reminder to include this item. I will include some advise there. When we announce 2.0.17 we will include this advise.
"

On Thu Nov 06 2014 at 12:26:32 PM Giordon Stark <gstark AT cern.ch> wrote:
This is a good question, and from what I'm seeing -- they're developing it to work "as-is" on lxplus. As far as I can tell, lxplus provides GSL locally. Why they're not shipping it with ALRB, or at the very least, within rcSetup, I don't know. They've frozen 2.0.16 and are working on new release versions so if they were going to ship it, I would've expected ALRB to have updated to reflect that change.

Giordon

On Thu Nov 06 2014 at 12:21:05 PM Miles Wu <mileswu AT uchicago.edu> wrote:
Hi Giordon and Lincoln,

Is installing this locally the recommended action? Is it not going to be provided by ALRB? I am a little bit hesitant to have it installed locally, because then we need to keep on top of keeping it up to date and in theory we might be using a different version that produces different results to someone else. Surely the AnalysisBase tag is tied to a specific version of GSL (in exactly the same way as it is meant to be used with a specific version of a centrally-compiled/managed ROOT) to ensure consistently between everyone in ATLAS.

For example we have seen this problem with the two versions of emi: the local one on the T3 no longer works because it wasn't updated with the new CERN VOMS servers, but the ALRB cvmfs one does work because it is maintained centrally by people whose job it is to keep this stuff working.

Thanks,
Miles

On Thursday, 6 November 2014 at 12:06, Lincoln Bryant wrote:

Hi Giordon,

Thanks for the heads up. I've forwarded this to the atlas-connect-l list and gsl should be rolling out on all of the MWT2, UCT3, and UC3 workers over the next few hours.

Thanks,
Lincoln

On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Giordon Stark wrote:

Hi all,

As of Analysis Base 2.0.16, we will need to have the GSL installed on computers that would like to run xAOD using RootCore. Release details (https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/AtlasProtected/AnalysisBase) but does not mentioned needing GSL.

In the meantime, the next stable base will be 2.0.13 (without GSL dependencies).

Thanks,

Giordon (see output below)

kratsg@tier3:/export/home/kratsg/test$ yum list gsl

Loaded plugins: security

Repository core-0 is listed more than once in the configuration

Repository osg-el6 is listed more than once in the configuration

Repository dell-el6 is listed more than once in the configuration

Repository SL-64-x86_64-security is listed more than once in the configuration

Repository SL-64-x86_64 is listed more than once in the configuration

Repository MWT2-SL6 is listed more than once in the configuration

Repository EPEL-6-x86_64 is listed more than once in the configuration


EPEL-6-x86_64                                                                            11151/11151

MWT2-SL6                                                                                     124/124

SL-64-x86_64                                                                               6410/6410

SL-64-x86_64-security                                                                      1855/1855

core-0                                                                                     4011/4011

dell-el6                                                                                   2318/2318

mwt2-kernel-sl6                                                                                13/13

osg-el6                                                                                    2455/2455

Available Packages

gsl.i686                                    1.13-1.el6                                   SL-64-x86_64

gsl.x86_64                                  1.13-1.el6                                   SL-64-x86_64








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