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  • From: Leszek Kosarzewski <leszek.kosarzewski AT gmail.com>
  • To: "Riedl, Caroline" <criedl AT illinois.edu>
  • Cc: "Brandenburg, Daniel" <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu>, "epic-backward-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <epic-backward-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Prozorov, Alexandr" <alexandr.prozorov AT cvut.cz>, "Bielcik, Jaroslav" <jaroslav.bielcik AT fjfi.cvut.cz>, "Lisa, Michael" <lisa AT physics.osu.edu>, "Pal, Subhadip" <palsubha AT fjfi.cvut.cz>, David Ruth <David.Ruth AT unh.edu>, Nathaly Santiesteban <nathaly.santiesteban AT unh.edu>, Maria Stefaniak <mzstefaniak AT gmail.com>, Brian Page <bpage AT bnl.gov>, Vincent Andrieux <vincent.andrieux AT cern.ch>, "Grosse Perdekamp, Matthias" <mgp AT illinois.edu>, "Sickles, Anne M" <sickles AT illinois.edu>
  • Subject: Re: [Epic-backward-hcal-l] URGENT: Backward HCal - name change for TDR
  • Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 17:22:21 -0400

Hi Daniel, Caroline and All

Thank you for your quick responses. In that case, I have no worries about the negative reception of the naming. Let's stick with nHCal, as this is easy to pronounce and understand.

Best regards, Leszek

pon., 8 lip 2024 o 13:07 Riedl, Caroline <criedl AT illinois.edu> napisał(a):
Hi Leszek and all,

My few cents - I've been using "nHCal" since I joined the project, which is admittedly just a few weeks. I'd prefer to keep it. It can be pronounced smoothly ("en-aitch-cal"), while "eeHCal" ("eeh-eeh-aitch-cal") is kind of a stumbler. "bHCal" is still too close to the barrel HCal (or may even be identical for case-insensitive circumstances, like some string searches). 

I don't think "negative" sounds negative in the colloquial sense. We're all particle physicists at the end of the day. 

Lastly - to be most consistent, the barrel HCal should change their name. In this way, we could keep the "b" for "backward", as opposed to the "F" in "HECAL" and "FHCAL".

Best,
Caroline

 

From: Leszek Kosarzewski <leszek.kosarzewski AT gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 11:10 AM
To: Brandenburg, Daniel <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu>
Cc: epic-backward-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov <epic-backward-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Prozorov, Alexandr <alexandr.prozorov AT cvut.cz>; Bielcik, Jaroslav <jaroslav.bielcik AT fjfi.cvut.cz>; Lisa, Michael <lisa AT physics.osu.edu>; Pal, Subhadip <palsubha AT fjfi.cvut.cz>; David Ruth <David.Ruth AT unh.edu>; Nathaly Santiesteban <nathaly.santiesteban AT unh.edu>; Maria Stefaniak <mzstefaniak AT gmail.com>; Brian Page <bpage AT bnl.gov>; Vincent Andrieux <vincent.andrieux AT cern.ch>; Grosse Perdekamp, Matthias <mgp AT illinois.edu>; Sickles, Anne M <sickles AT illinois.edu>; Riedl, Caroline <criedl AT illinois.edu>
Subject: Re: URGENT: Backward HCal - name change for TDR
 
Hi Daniel

Yes, I like it too and I've been using it. However, the "negative" doesn't sound good for publicity even though it just means negative rapidity.

Best regards, Leszek

pon., 8 lip 2024 o 12:04 Brandenburg, Daniel <brandenburg.89 AT osu.edu> napisał(a):
Hi Leszek,

I like “nHCAL” as we’ve been using. Can we stick with that? 

Best,
Daniel

From: Leszek Kosarzewski <leszek.kosarzewski AT gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 5:32:41 PM
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Subject: URGENT: Backward HCal - name change for TDR
 
Dear Colleagues As you can see during the keyword selection for TDR: https: //indico. bnl. gov/event/24087/#5-communications There is a name clash: BHCAl - barrel HCal BHCAL - backward HCAL We need to fix it by tomorrow. In order to avoid this
Dear Colleagues

As you can see during the keyword selection for TDR:


There is a name clash:
BHCAl - barrel HCal
BHCAL - backward HCAL

We need to fix it by tomorrow. In order to avoid this I suggest the following:

eeHCAL - "electron endcap HCAL" (the best selection)
nHCal - "negative HCal" - negative doesn't sound good
bHCal - "backward HCal" - backward doesn't sound good either

Tomorrow (the deadline), I will suggest "eeHCAL" to Silvia, but please let me know if you have other ideas or suggestions.

Best regards, Leszek



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