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  • From: Brett Viren <bv AT bnl.gov>
  • To: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: NPPS members <Phys-npps-members-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Qian, Xin" <xqian AT bnl.gov>, "Yu, Haiwang" <hyu AT bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [[Phys-npps-members-l] ] Wed NPPS AI/ML agenda
  • Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2025 16:02:01 -0400

Hi Torre,

Ollama has no auth and should never be put on the Internet[1].

Open-WebUI has auth but at least with my use, it loves to forget it has
been set up and will fall back into a first-run state that lets anyone
gain full admin privileges. I would never put Open-WebUI on the
internet.

Exposing either of these to the internal bnl.gov campus net is maybe
okay, though still not great to do, imo.

OTOH, I don't see any problem exposing a trusted frontend that has a
secure connection to an ollama backend.


-Brett.

[1] Some folks are okay with a more relaxed posture about Ollama. Maybe
we can use these gracious volunteers instead of buying more GPUs!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45113418






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