NPPS Leadership Team

[Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>]

Elke is with us, no small thing

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From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Proposal for new 1/2 FTE of EIC software effort
To: Aschenauer Elke-Caroline <elke AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Aschenauer Elke-Caroline <elke AT bnl.gov>, Ullrich Thomas <thomas.ullrich AT bnl.gov>

Great! Thanks. Rolf is reportedly supportive for their part.

  Torre

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:17 PM Aschenauer Elke-Caroline <elke AT bnl.gov> wrote:

thanks for letting us know, it is good to have the arguments so well described, it helps we can push for it as well is asked.

cheers elke

On May 29, 2020, at 07:15, Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com> wrote:

FYI, so you are aware. Jamie's response was "I'm going to have to think about this in terms of overall effort.  I'm pretty sure

there is no more room under the budgetary plans I put together this year."

  Torre

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From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
Date: Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:52 PM
Subject: Proposal for new 1/2 FTE of EIC software effort
To: Jamie Dunlop <dunlop AT bnl.gov>
Cc: Hong Ma <hma AT bnl.gov>

Hi Jamie,
I have a proposal to make an addition to the EIC software effort (over and above Kolja, including his promotion), while at the same time activating the PHENIX DAP support.

I haven't forgotten that you have allocated 1/2 FTE for PHENIX data & analysis preservation :-) I haven't found a way to use it on an existing person. I have been looking for an opportunity to add a complementary 1/2 FTE to turn it into a full person we can hire, and I think there's a good case now for the other 1/2 FTE to be EIC software support. This new 1/2 FTE would be complemented by another 1/2 FTE of new EIC software support being requested to JLab by Markus (which would be applied to JLab based effort).

Here's why we need an additional FTE of EIC software support.

In EIC software, the YR developments and the most recent workshop last week have clarified our needs. The suite of simu tools we support in the software working group are accepted and in use across the YR working groups. It is clear that for the indefinite future we will have two full simu + reco frameworks, fun4all and escalate (g4e + jana2). Actually we have three because EicRoot is still getting a lot of use. On the fast simu side we support one, eic-smear, though some in the community are using delphes. What is clear now, and what we're getting requests for, is we need cross-validation between these tools. Between full and full, fast and full, and fast and fast if delphes catches on. Kolja is ready to help here, in the context of eic-smear; he can help both with the general infrastructure and applying it to eic-smear. But he can't do it all, and the software working group conveners are asking for help in the form of an FTE of new postdoc-level effort. This effort would be used to help develop the infrastructure (common format for kinematic outputs from simu and reco, standard set of validation ntuples and plots, validation workflows, etc.) and to perform the validation of our supported software packages and cross-validation between them.

This validation suite and infrastructure will have important value beyond validating the software itself. By enabling the comparison of full and fast simu based on physics performance metrics, it will provide quantitative means of assessing the relative utility and roles of fast and full simu, enabling us to optimize their use with their very different processing costs and latencies. It will also provide a means of objectively comparing detector models and monitoring the changes in their performance as models evolve.

Hence I am asking you for 1/2 FTE postdoc level support, which I could combine with the DAP support to hire someone. DAP and the validation work fit very well; validation is part of DAP. And Markus is asking JLab management for 1/2 FTE support.  The two labs collaborating to support an FTE worth of effort (across two people) on a task that is manifestly important and generic -- and which is all the more important because we have not converged on one framework, though the work would be needed even if we had -- would be a very good message of support for the immediate software needs of EIC.

Interested to hear what you think.

  Torre

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