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  • From: Brett Viren <bv AT bnl.gov>
  • To: Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l <phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Cc: Tadashi Maeno <tmaeno AT cern.ch>
  • Subject: Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] CSI/NPPS LDRD A proposal
  • Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 11:47:13 -0400

Hi Torre,

Torre Wenaus writes:

> I believe she's asked Brett to participate too.

Yes, I've just read it.

It looks good but I think we need to sharpen the argument a bit.

For example, billing it as an "AI/ML service" puts it in competition
with established SaaS (AIMLaaS?) eg such as provided by Google. We'll
need to indicate why our idea is novel.

To me, what is novel is that we need GPUs and other special hardware in
the otherwise "historical" HTC environment. We need GPUs not just to
train AI/ML and run AI/ML inference but also to accelerate "mundane"
algorithms (eg FFTs in DUNE's case). Training can be done in HPC but
these latter two are applied in HTC.

More generally speaking, I think we are working to balance the "ratio of
ratios" (CPU/GPU required by software vs provided by hardware).

We should invent a new buzzword for this marriage of HTC/HPC ("HT/PC"?)


-Brett.

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