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- From: "Van Buren, Gene" <gene AT bnl.gov>
- To: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
- Cc: NPPS leadership team <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication
- Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2021 14:43:28 +0000
I completely agree that a ground-level discourse between NPPS and SDCC is a positive move that can help break down any "us vs. them" attitudes that can potentially build up walls, and help people understand their roles and dependencies on each other. SDCC participation in NPPS group meetings has mostly been just a few people, and I haven't heard of much SDCC involvement in the NPPS coffees, but I don't make those myself so I'm not in-the-know. I do wish that these could be in-person meetings, though, as I think it's much easier for people to get to know each other when they sit next to each other and mingle before and after the scheduled discussions.
I'll be interested to hear what the four organizers come up with, but I'd encourage creative thinking about the meeting format, to encourage mingling or informal discussions somehow, in addition to the scheduled meeting topics. As a brainstorming
idea, we used "Spatial" for an informal gathering in STAR last year, though that might take the idea a bit too far for this purpose (and I think has licensing concerns).
I have no objection to the proposed organizers from NPPS.
Thanks,
-Gene
On Sep 28, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Thanks for the positive feedback thus far! On the good principle of keeping the brass out of it, a good first step might be for the four organizers to meet and decide what you've signed up for. I don't know what Eric means that it has worked well with other inter-group activities.
Torre
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 10:06 AM Kolja Kauder <kkauder AT gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm on board, with the caveat that I'm not much involved with sPHENIX
at present. But I'm not sure what I'm signing up for. Arranging
quarterly meetings between the two groups? With/without leadership
brass? It may be best to ask Hiro and Chris what they're envisioning,
and how it is working with other groups.
Kolja
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 9:35 AM Laycock, Paul via Phys-npps-mgmt-l
<phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> I like those suggestions !
>
> On 28 Sep 2021, at 15:32, Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l <Phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> How about for NPPS side organizers...
> - Kolja, having in mind particularly sPHENIX, EIC, STAR, ie things nuclear
> - Someone nominated by PaulL (Cedric?) in the Belle II/DUNE orbit, having in mind particularly things HEP
> I think we should limit to 2 organizers on our side. ATLAS would be covered also if Cedric is one of the organizers.
> To trigger your suggestions :-)
> Torre
>
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 5:45 PM Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> FYI. Suggestions? Volunteers?
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
>> Date: Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 17:44
>> Subject: Re: NPPS - SDCC communication
>> To: Lancon, Eric <elancon AT bnl.gov>
>>
>>
>> Sounds good! Will get back to you about organizing from our side.
>> Torre
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 17:27 Lancon, Eric <elancon AT bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Torre
>>> Thank you!
>>> I would like to propose Chris Hollowell and Hiro on SDCC side for organizing these meetings; both have already agreed.
>>>
>>> Eric Lancon
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 5:12 PM
>>> To: Lancon, Eric
>>> Subject: Re: NPPS - SDCC communication
>>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> Sounds like a great idea!
>>> Torre
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 4:55 PM Lancon, Eric <elancon AT bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Torre,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To improve communication between NPPS and SDCC, I would like to propose organizing regular (quarterly?) joint group meetings. Junior staff member(s) from each group can be tasked to setup such events. This practice has proven to be very beneficial in other inter-group activities; it gives junior staff opportunities to get involved and get acquainted with other topics and other BNL staff members.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you agree, and we work out the logistics.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> -- Torre Wenaus, BNL NPPS Group, ATLAS Experiment
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>>> -- NPPS Mattermost room: https://chat.sdcc.bnl.gov/npps/channels/town-square
>>
>> --
>> -- Torre Wenaus, BNL NPPS Group, ATLAS Experiment
>> -- BNL 510A 1-222 | 631-681-7892 | wenaus AT gmail.com | npps.bnl.gov | wenaus.com
>> -- NPPS Mattermost room: https://chat.sdcc.bnl.gov/npps/channels/town-square
>> --
>> -- Torre Wenaus, BNL NPPS Group, ATLAS Experiment
>> -- BNL 510A 1-222 | 631-681-7892 | wenaus AT gmail.com | npps.bnl.gov | wenaus.com
>> -- NPPS Mattermost room: https://chat.sdcc.bnl.gov/npps/channels/town-square
>
>
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NPPS, EIC
Brookhaven National Lab, Upton, NY
+1 (631) 344-5935
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[Phys-npps-mgmt-l] Fwd: NPPS - SDCC communication,
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
Kolja Kauder, 09/28/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
Torre Wenaus, 09/28/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
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- Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication, Torre Wenaus, 09/29/2021
- Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication, Laycock, Paul, 09/29/2021
- Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication, Laycock, Paul, 09/30/2021
- Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication, Torre Wenaus, 09/30/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
alexei klimentov, 09/29/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
Van Buren, Gene, 09/28/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
Torre Wenaus, 09/28/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
Kolja Kauder, 09/28/2021
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Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication,
Laycock, Paul, 09/28/2021
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Torre Wenaus, 09/30/2021
- Re: [Phys-npps-mgmt-l] NPPS - SDCC communication, Kolja Kauder, 09/30/2021
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