NPPS Leadership Team

[Torre Wenaus <wenaus AT gmail.com>]

Money is in the hundreds of k I believe. Timescale is 'yesterday', not sure it's compatible with a fresh hire. We have a meeting this afternoon on DUNE spending ideas, should have a better picture after that. 

On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 3:30 PM Brett Viren <bv AT bnl.gov> wrote:

Generally, this sounds really good.  But, I do wonder what is the amount
of money and what is the time scale.  Is this at the scale of hiring a
post-doc?

-Brett.


Torre Wenaus via Phys-npps-mgmt-l <phys-npps-mgmt-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
writes:

> Hi all,
> It seems there's FY24 money on the floor that the management is looking for ways to sweep up quickly into projects. I did
> some opinionating with Hong that I'll share with you. You'll recall our GenAI boosterism slide we prepared for a DOE
> request
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dSNSrkrPBjEmQDmmfOgmObiIX9ZGVc3YSmojBzLFcZY/edit#slide=id.p1
>
> (I just shared the slide with our AI/ML mattermost channel, I should have done that earlier)
>
> My comments to Hong...
>
> I think injecting some effort on that slide's work program would be a great way to use some available money. It has 1-3
> year goals
>
>   • Near term: 1-3 years
>   
>       □ Complete R&D on using AI to draw trusted, quantified inferences from real data
>       
>       □ Develop a prototype HENP LLM with current data (e.g. ATLAS, RHIC) and first generation feature extraction tools
>
> where the first one is building on Brett's LS4GAN work. His LDRD ends circa June. The work has been successful but in some
> ways frustrating for Brett. Physics turned down the LDRD, it went through as CSI. So working on his idea has been in the
> hands of -- good, no criticism -- CSI people who are more concerned about extracting CS papers than physics-directed
> development and application. It is work in an area that rightly is very high profile in scientific application of AI, we
> should continue our activity, with a physics focus.
>
> And some support for the second bullet could get us into the LLMs for HENP game reflected in the Apr 9 meeting
> contribution!
>
> ...of course there'll be no shortage of proposals for spending money quickly, e.g. DUNE and EIC, but wanted to get this in
> his ear. Comments welcome. DOE is now making noises there may be tens of millions to spend on AI *for experiments*, not
> just ASCR, in FY25, it would be good for us to have ideas and plans-for-a-plan ready.
>
>  Torre
>
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