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  • From: Ron Belmont <belmonrj AT gmail.com>
  • To: sphenix-bulk-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-bulk-l] Seeking TG input for "day-1" discussion on Aug 26
  • Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 12:30:32 -0400

Hi All,

Many thanks for the responses so far!  A friendly reminder to provide any input you have.  Sooner is better, but please send your input by early next week so I can compile it and share with the collaboration on Friday Aug 19 (per the request from Anne and Dennis).

Cheers,

Ron


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Ron Belmont (he/him/his)
Past Chair, RHIC/AGS Users' Executive Committee
Assistant Professor, Department of Physics & Astronomy
University of North Carolina at Greensboro
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On Aug 8, 2022, at 9:11 AM, Vladimir Bumazhnov <bumaznov AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:

07.08.2022 19:11, Ron Belmont пишет:
You can reply to the list (encouraged) or to me privately, whichever you prefer

                     Dear All,

I completely agree that the most interesting thing  to study  are v2{2,4,6,8,10} from cumulants.

May be it would be interesting to see also following:
1) we divide each event to subevents in eta  (delta_eta ~= 0.5-0.7). All  tracks of any subevent belong to the some eta-interval which
is its own for each subevent.
 Then using Q-cumulants method we can obtain v2{2,4,6,...} for each subevent and the whole event.
 And we can compare them.
2)We can to obtain v2{2,4,6,...} from integral cumulants getting from (subevent_i + subevent_j).
 It is interesting to compare them for different subevent combinations (i,j).
3) It would be interesting to get v2{2,4,6,...} from differential cumulants obtaining
from (subevent_i + subevent_j), where subevent_i is used  as Reference Flow Particles ( for getting the reference cumulants)
 and subevent_j is used as Particles of Interest.
 And it is interesting to see the same for (subevent_j + subevent_i). Will  the differential cumulants be the same as in the
case of (subevent_i + subevent_j) or different?
4)If we have v2{8} or may be v2{10} then may be we can get nonflow correlations from
cumulants c_n{2,4,6,... }. I think it is also interesting.
5) May be it would be interesting to get v1 and v3 too.

a) I have not any experience in the cumulant studying. As I understand we need tracks or tracklets from TPC or Silicon Vertex detector.
b) May be, that simple MonteCarlo (without G4) can help to see how the number of tracks in event, track resolution, inhomogeneities of the detector in azimuth will influence the cumulants.
c) I agree. For Day-1 all can be done for minimum bias.
d)I do not know what is currently available for MC
e) I do not know it. I believe to Ron.

  With best regards,
               Vladimir



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