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  • From: Hugo Pereira Da Costa <hugo.pereira-da-costa AT cea.fr>
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  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-calibration-l] Next meeting on Space Charge distortions in the TPC, Tuesday Sept. 1st 11AM EST
  • Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2020 12:18:37 -0600


On 9/1/2020 12:08 PM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa via sPHENIX-calibration-l wrote:
Hi Ross, others

Thinking more about this Gas change: I guess that means that all Hijing simulations from Chris need to be redone (due to the ionization/cm change) correct ?

Is this really what we want to do, now, with the pressing deadlines ?

Maybe I spoke too quickly ... Does changing the gas affects the G4Hits, or just the Hits ?

It certainly affects how we convert G4Hits into hits (number of electrons per MeV deposited by a particle), and especially if we change the gain. But that part does not require re-running HIJING + GEANT.

Now the gas also enters the TPC volumes definition to geant4, which would in turn affect GEANT4. Is that effect negligible ?

Hugo


On 9/1/2020 12:02 PM, Ross Corliss via sPHENIX-calibration-l wrote:
Thanks, Hugo and all who attended.

Per discussion in the meeting today, future spacecharge simulations will use Ne:CF4 50:50 gas, with the following parameters:

double Ne_dEdx = 1.56;   // keV/cmI
double CF4_dEdx = 7.00;  // keV/cm
double Ne_NTotal = 43;    // Number/cm
double CF4_NTotal = 100;  // Number/cm

double dEdx=Ne_dEdx*0.5+CF4_dEdx*0.5;
double NTot=Ne_NTotal *0.5+CF4_NTotal *0.5;

these produce an expected 71.50 e-/cm for MIP tracks.

double ionMobility=1.65; //cm^2/(V*sec)
double elecDriftVelocity=8;//cm/us)

the elecDriftVelocity is essentially the same for 50:50 and 90:10 (if you have a more precise number, please feel free to propose it).  The ionMobility, however, has changed by a factor of two, and the ionization is 50% higher.

To keep the overall gain the same, the amplification gain should be scaled by the ratio 48.7/71.5 -- the 90:10 ionization per cm over the 50:50 ionization per cm.


-Ross



On Sep 1, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa via sPHENIX-calibration-l <sphenix-calibration-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Friendly reminder: we meet in 15 minutes. Talk to you soon !

Hugo


On 8/31/20 8:45 AM, Hugo Pereira Da Costa via sPHENIX-calibration-l wrote:
  Dear all,

Last week it was decided that the next meeting dedicated to space charge distortions in the TPC wil occur tomorrow, Sept. 1st, at 11AM EST

It will cover activities related to both the TPC monitoring detector (Outer Tracker) and space charge calibration software.

Outer Tracker specific matters, if any, will be discussed first.

The indico page is at https://indico.bnl.gov/event/9302/

contributions are welcome.

Connection details are below.

Best,


Hugo


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