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  • Subject: Re: [[Sphenix-calibration-l] ] Fwd: Fw: Database utility and SiPM leakage current studies for sPHENIX physics data-taking
  • Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2024 11:33:19 -0400

Hi Jamie,

I agree with the PR aspect but the purpose of this table is really triage. In PHENIX we used to have feedback from the calibrations to weed out "hopeless" runs (e.g. "forgot to runt on the calos", "the tpc was off in this run",...) which then weren't reconstructed. This table allows us to implement this scheme for sPHENIX (where we don't have automatic processes - yet - filling this). But only hopeless runs should be flagged as bad (where we still have the option to reconstruct other subsystems). I would assume that most runs will fall into the not golden category once all subsystems give their opinion and then it's up to the physics you want to look at to select the good runs. But all of those will be reconstructed

Chris
 


On 9/29/2024 9:15 AM, Jamie Nagle wrote:
Hello Edward and Megan (cc list),

I want to strongly echo Dennis' comment.    In fact, I do not agree with the current quantification of good/bad runs and think it would be incorrect to show such a table.      As I have said many times, the QA process is going to be physics dependent and it is an approach that does harm to the hard work of taking so much data to just imagine tossing lots of it away.

Sincerely,

Jamie

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On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:11 AM dvp <dvp AT bnl.gov> wrote:
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Hi Edward,

Thanks for preparing this draft. I just had two brief comments:

This is from a “public relations” perspective — for the example of the Run Triage website screenshot, is it possible to pick some run ranges where more runs happen to be good? I wonder if it will be an odd impression that your example has 5/6 “BAD” runs.

For the 3-D rendering of sPHENIX, I think the one you have might be one of the older ones. Dave Morrison maintains the latest and greatest ones here: https://bnlbox.sdcc.bnl.gov/index.php/s/tDHkYzzETHfaLJE - maybe there is a better-looking replacement?

Have fun at DNP, 

Dennis

On Sep 27, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Megan Connors <meganeconnors AT gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all 

Edward tried to send his CEU poster to the lists last night. I didn’t see it go through so I’m sending it again. Apologies if you received it twice. We will also get uploaded to invenio as soon as we can.

I hope everyone else affected by Helene is staying safe. 

Best
Megan 

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