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  • From: David Morrison <morrison AT bnl.gov>
  • To: John Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu>, sphenix-cold-qcd-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] draft slides for meeting at Temple on detector strategy
  • Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 10:38:35 -0500

Hi John,

Right, that's my thinking. I think we come out of this in a stronger
position if the EIC community understands sPHENIX as a potential
precursor – and perhaps the most realistic precursor - to an excellent
EIC detector. There will naturally be debates as we go forward about
what sPHENIX elements might be reused or rebuilt or replaced for the
purpose of an EIC detector. My response would be that even at the very
extreme end of that spectrum of views, that none of the sPHENIX
detectors are suitable for an EIC detector – a view I don't share, btw –
the community should very seriously consider the sPHENIX solenoid and
flux return as a foundation. Design around that and you're already
several steps ahead.

At the same time, I do want the audience to know that we didn't sit on
our hands following the writing of the 2014 LoI. For that, I could use
some help adding detail to slide 16. A list of specific studies that
have been done since then would convey to people the seriousness of the
effort that has continued to go toward an EIC detector built on sPHENIX.
I wouldn't have time to describe those studies, but rattling them off
would show that the effort is vibrant and current. I'd also like to
annotate the various detector cutaways to show how EIC detector R&D is
playing a role.

Cheers,
Dave

On 11/28/17 9:25 AM, John Lajoie wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
>     I very much like your approach and especially your statement in the
> conclusions -  the solenoid and flux return (HCAL) are a great
> foundation.  The traditional argument against the "ePHENIX" approach has
> been to focus on a particular aspect of detector performance and use
> that to declare the approach unsatisfactory, and this undercuts that
> argument very effectively.  I'm sure what you will say on slide 10
> (something like "...this is one possible implementation..." ) will be
> consistent with your approach.
>
> John
>
>
> On 11/27/2017 4:06 PM, David Morrison wrote:
>> Dear sPHENIX,
>>
>> I'll be giving a 10 minute (!) talk this Thursday at the EICUG Detector
>> Discussion Meeting at Temple University. I'll be the last in a series
>> of talks about detector concepts, and the talk is so brief, that I'm
>> planning to focus on one main point – that starting with the BaBar
>> solenoid in the sPHENIX support structure and with the oHCal as an
>> instrumented flux return is a a great starting point for an EIC
>> detector. Of course, you can do even better by also using the TPC and
>> the MVTX and the EMCal, but I think presenting a nearly "blank canvas"
>> as part of the spectrum of options has the potential to be maximally
>> inviting.
>>
>> My draft slides are here:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/y2ib26f7iwz6h68/EICUG.pptx?dl=0
>>
>> Nils and Jin helped me get some up to date dimensions for the current
>> EIC concept detector to Dan Cacace, who has made some nice 3D
>> renderings. I'm very happy to get feedback. The big constraint is the
>> alloted time, so for anything significant that goes in, something will
>> have to come out.
>>
>> I need to add names and institutions to some of the slides and finish
>> adding labels to some of the renderings.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>
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