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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST]
- From: Yuji Goto <goto AT bnl.gov>
- To: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>, "Lajoie, John G [PHYSA]" <lajoie AT iastate.edu>, "sphenix-cold-qcd-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-cold-qcd-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST]
- Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 12:12:27 +0900
Dear Cold QCD TG members, We'll have a sPHENIX/EIC-sPHENIX oriented test beam time around
April 14th to 16th at Fermilab during the STAR Forward + EIC
R&D test beam (April 3rd to 23rd). We plan to test the effect
of the magnet return yoke for the HCal performance with a mimic
sPHENIX forward configuration with sPHENIX with an EMCal + steel +
HCal setup in the test beam. We'd like to ask you considering participation in this test beam
and its data analysis. We need more manpower to perform this test.
Please let us know if you can contribute. Thanks, Jin for your idea below. We'd like to discuss your
option. We hope you can also join the test beam. Best regards, Yuji
On 2019/02/08 5:56, Huang, Jin wrote:
Hi, Yuji and John
Thanks for developing the HCal test too.
I also agree with John that without an EMCal, the test would be very different from the fsPHENIX LOI calorimeter stack (the location of dead material in the calorimeter stack matters). Besides, I worry at the end, the performance with a plug door would be significantly worse than that without, as shown in Figure 3.3 of the fsPHENIX LOI. When shown around out of context, it could lead to adverse PR for us.
Alternatively, we may consider having an additional test with a much thinner inactive material in front, e.g., 1-cm or 1-inch thick steel plate. The reasoning behind is that we hope the HCal with steel absorbers could serve as the field return itself. However, with segmented plates, HCal does need additional structural support in front to counter the magnetic force and quenching force. Without a real calculation, I guess a 1-cm and a 1-inch steel plate could play this role. And I hope with such a thin inactive layer (5-10% X0), its impact on the performance of the calorimeter system would be minimal.
Cheers
Jin
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On Behalf Of Lajoie, John G [PHYSA]
Hi Yuji,
No particular ideas, I was just wondering what the test configuration would look like. Without an EMCal in front you wouldn’t be able to examine the effect of the plug door on the class of events that start to shower in the EMCal, but it looks like you will have that.
Good luck!
John
From: Yuji Goto <goto AT bnl.gov>
Hi John, I heard the main test will be performed for the STAR FCS configuration with EMCal (refurbished PHENIX PbSc, I think) + HCal. For our test for EMC-sPHENIX with steel, we plan to test only HCal without EMCal. Do you have an idea to test EMCal + steel + HCal? Yuji On 2019/02/07 6:17, Lajoie, John G [PHYSA] wrote:
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[Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Yuji Goto, 02/06/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Lajoie, John G [PHYSA], 02/06/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Yuji Goto, 02/06/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Lajoie, John G [PHYSA], 02/07/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Huang, Jin, 02/07/2019
- Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST], Yuji Goto, 02/20/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Huang, Jin, 02/07/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Lajoie, John G [PHYSA], 02/07/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Yuji Goto, 02/06/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-cold-qcd-l] STAR+EIC R&D forward HCal beam test in April [Re: Next Cold QCD TG meeting Mon, Feb 4, at 8:30 pm EST],
Lajoie, John G [PHYSA], 02/06/2019
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