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Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
- From: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>
- To: "Purschke, Martin" <purschke AT bnl.gov>
- Cc: "sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-emcal-l] [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 03:06:49 +0000
Hi, Martin and all
Thanks! This flag is very convenient. This switch is incorporated into a
not-yet-merged prototype3 production code:
https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a
Now I will also appreciate if someone could point to me the new HBD channel
map for high-eta EMCal, which will put here:
https://github.com/blackcathj/coresoftware/commit/3236ced2bc2c604a94ab94cd8f3fa9a1daa9259a#diff-4943c7156628a48058c793384d2269b3
Cheers,
Jin
______________________________
Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
Associate Physicist
Brookhaven National Laboratory
Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
Upton, NY 11973-5000
Office: 631-344-5898
Cell: 757-604-9946
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-
> bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Martin Purschke
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:37 PM
> To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
>
> All, especially Jin,
>
> I started to summarize the current PRDF structure changes as compared to
> 2017.
>
> I added a chapter "What is new in the data structures in 2017" in
> https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#What
> _is_new_in_the_data_structures_in_2017
>
> Basically we are reading more scalers in packet 910/911, and added one
> camera packet 944 (not to let a cam go to waste).
>
> begin-run packet 905 (just its presence, not content) indicates that the new
> (high-eta) emcal is connected. Example code on the Wiki.
>
> Best,
> Martin
>
>
>
> On 1/20/17 16:20, Huang, Jin wrote:
> > Hi, John and Martin
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the lots of work initiating the test. 8-GeV scan sounds
> > like a good plan. And I think Martin's marker packet in PRDF will be
> > very useful for analysis too (good to have a copy in numerical format
> > too).
> >
> >
> >
> >> I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl item in the
> >
> >> wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with
> > in one
> >
> >> BCO."
> >
> >
> >
> > Hmm. I guess I should say move the PbGL signal earlier in the sample
> > train. In the past run 2016, the PbGL was recorded with peak around
> > sample 15-21. Almost for all events, the tail of ADC spectrum just
> > fall off the cliff beyond max sample of 24. Although one can still fit
> > for the max, this prevented us to perform an analysis of 1100V to
> > 1200V comparison by just integrate the ADC count (although signal
> > shape could change between two HV settings, presumably the ADC
> > integral remain the same.). Example 2016 data shown below.
> >
> >
> >
> > Therefore, the request I meant is to move the PbGL trigger to come
> > 100-150ns later, so we could sample the whole curve. Wiki updated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and
> > look at
> >
> >> it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we
> >> deem
> >
> >> worth analyzing.
> >
> >
> >
> > A wiki run list will be useful. Just chat with Chris, that we will
> > setup a new code base for prototype-3 analysis and decouple it with
> > prototype-2. A channel map will be useful in setting up the PRDF
> > unpacker. Most other infrastructure should be similar. When production
> > is setup, I also need to work on the analysis tutorial ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > Jin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
> >
> >
> >
> > Associate Physicist
> >
> > Brookhaven National Laboratory
> >
> > Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
> >
> > Upton, NY 11973-5000
> >
> >
> >
> > Office: 631-344-5898
> >
> > Cell: 757-604-9946
> >
> > ______________________________
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >
> >> From: sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-
> >
> >> bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of John Haggerty
> >
> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 6:18 AM
> >
> >> To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov; sphenix-emcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> >
> >> Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] Test beam data wish list
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Jin and Abhisek,
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Thanks for putting this together, after last week's beamline scare I
> > thought
> >
> >> maybe we better have a plan that would get us some of what we want in
> >
> >> short order in case the septa failed completely.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Looking over the list and thinking what we need to get done this
> > weekend to
> >
> >> confirm that we have everything connected and working to the best of
> >> our
> >
> >> knowledge, I think we should spend most of our time this weekend at
> >
> >> -8 GeV and take data at
> >
> >>
> >
> >> - sweet spot of EMCAL3
> >
> >> - PbGl
> >
> >> - HCAL only
> >
> >> - sweet spot of EMCAL2
> >
> >>
> >
> >> in that order, which will debug/verify the hodoscope, the Cerenkov
> > counters,
> >
> >> our own detectors, and give us some experience with the wire chamber
> >> data,
> >
> >> and would let us exercise new analysis necessary for the
> >
> >> EMCAL3 (the channel map is new). It seems to me that ideally, we
> >> could
> >
> >> then produce, albeit with unit calibration constants, resolutions for
> > the two
> >
> >> EMCAL's and the HCAL alone which could be directly compared with last
> > year.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> In looking at what we've installed and done, I think it would better
> >> than
> >
> >> trying to start with a big calibration scan, before we have fully
> > established
> >
> >> that everything is works and we can analyze it as we did at the end
> >> of
> > the last
> >
> >> beam test, and we'll be lucky to get through this in a weekend.
> >> Also, it
> >
> >> doesn't require a lot of beam development, and since the beam has
> >> been off
> >
> >> for so long, there may be startup hiccups when we ask for changed
> >
> >> conditions. -8 GeV seems like a good way to start for that reason,
> >> and
> >
> >> because we have a lot of data from last time there. If we take this,
> > have time
> >
> >> to study it, and are ready to go on, I think the next thing would be
> > an energy
> >
> >> scan in the PbGl. I didn't understand the suggestion in the PbGl
> >> item
> > in the
> >
> >> wiki to "make sure timing peak of the lead glass data is stable with
> > in one
> >
> >> BCO." As far as I know, there is no way to synchronize the ADC clock
> >> with
> >
> >> beam events, and I hope that nothing we did in the past relied on the
> >> peak
> >
> >> being in any particular sample.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> Also, we will be sharing time for the next few days with T-1068,
> >> which I
> >
> >> believe is development of an SVX4-based Si telescope by groups from
> >> KEK
> >
> >> and Osaka for tests of ATLAS pixel and strip detectors, I would guess
> > they'll
> >
> >> want 120 GeV protons, and if we wanted to run parasitically with them
> >> (not
> >
> >> sure we have the person-power to do that), we could in principle take
> >> MIP
> >
> >> calibration data with them in the beam, they should be pretty low mass.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> To make this data widely useful, we'll need to run the production and
> > look at
> >
> >> it--that can be done remotely if we update the wiki with runs that we
> >> deem
> >
> >> worth analysing. We'll have to exercise some care in changing
> >> EMCAL's,
> >
> >> since the geometry and channel map are different, but the data will
> >> look
> >
> >> exactly the same unless we do something to identify it. We could
> > change the
> >
> >> packet id, I suppose, but that would take the HCAL and hodoscope with it.
> >
> >> Also, we have to make some changes to the database to account for two
> >
> >> emcal's and changes to the hcal controller.
> >
> >>
> >
> >> On 1/18/17 3:51 PM, Huang, Jin wrote:
> >
> >> > Hi, Everyone
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > In the HCal meeting today, John Haggerty asked Abhisek and I to
> >> > come
> >
> >> > up with a wish list for key measurements for the on-going beam test.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Please find a draft EMCal data wish list at this link:
> >
> >> >
> >
> >>
> https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EMC
> >
> <https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
> C
> > al_Standalone_Data>
> >
> >> al_Standalone_Data
> <https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/2017_calorimeter_beam_test#EM
> Cal_Standalone_Data>.
> >
> >> > Seven data set was rated high, mid and low. Welcomed to give
> >
> >> > suggestions or edit the list on wiki.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Jin
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > ______________________________
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Jin HUANG, Ph. D.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Associate Physicist
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Brookhaven National Laboratory
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Physics Department, Bldg 510 C
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Upton, NY 11973-5000
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Office: 631-344-5898
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Cell: 757-604-9946
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > ______________________________
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > *From:*sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
> >
> >> > [mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] *On Behalf Of *John
> >
> >> > Lajoie
> >
> >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:54 PM
> >
> >> > *To:* Lynch, Don <dlynch AT bnl.gov <mailto:dlynch AT bnl.gov>>;
> > sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> >
> >> > *Subject:* Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Hi Don,
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Thanks for the update! I certainly appreciate that you want to
> >
> >> > keep the engineering meeting tight, but I'll look forward to poking
> >
> >> > through the slides.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > John
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > On 1/17/2017 4:51 PM, Lynch, Don wrote:
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Hi John,
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > We won't have any Engineering input for tomorrow's meeting, as
> >> > we
> >
> >> > are meeting with Walt Sondheim on MAPS parameters at the same
> time.
> >
> >> > We do have a BNL internal Calorimeter engineering meeting on
> >> > Friday
> >
> >> > to go over Anatoli's latest analyses, Rich's current light
> >
> >> > collection design status and general engineering issues for
> >
> >> > finalizing HCal mechanical design (steel, light collection,
> >> > etc.,
> >
> >> > inner and outer) and advancing the EMCal mechanical design.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > We are not putting this on bluejeans, as we want to keep the
> >
> >> > engineering discussion tight, but we will post some slides on
> > Indico.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > - Don Lynch
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > *From: *<sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov
> >
> >> > <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>> on behalf of
> >> > John
> >
> >> > Lajoie <lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu
> > <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu%20%3cmailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>>>
> >
> >> > *Date: *Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 3:11 PM
> >
> >> > *To: *"sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> >
> >> > <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>"
> >> > <sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
> >
> >> > <mailto:sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>>
> >
> >> > *Subject: *[Sphenix-hcal-l] HCAL bi-weekly meeting
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Dear HCAL'ers:
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > It's been a while, but we will resume our bi-weekly HCAL
> >
> >> > meetings this coming Wednesday, Jan 18th, at 2:30PM BNL time. The
> >
> >> > agenda is evolving here at:
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=2762
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > I'm hoping we can get an update on the test beam, and maybe
> >> > some
> >
> >> > additional contributions.
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Regards,
> >
> >> > John
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > --
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > *John Lajoie*
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Professor of Physics
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Iowa State University
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > (515) 294-6952
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>
> > <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/john.lajoie.5>LinkedIn
> >
> >> > <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-lajoie/9/a9/bba/>
> >
> >> > Contact me: Skypejohn.lajoie
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > --
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > *John Lajoie*
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Professor of Physics
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Iowa State University
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > (515) 294-6952
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > lajoie AT iastate.edu <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>
> > <mailto:lajoie AT iastate.edu>
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/john.lajoie.5>LinkedIn
> >
> >> > <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-lajoie/9/a9/bba/>
> >
> >> > Contact me: Skypejohn.lajoie
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> >
> >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >
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> >
> >> --
> >
> >> John Haggerty
> >
> >> email: haggerty AT bnl.gov <mailto:haggerty AT bnl.gov>
> >
> >> cell: 631 741 3358
> >
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