sPHENIX EMCal discussion

[Edward Kistenev <kistenev AT bnl.gov>]

Pictures  are really great. 
But - my usual unhappiness of too good a things makes me  a “devil’s 
advocate” so I ask my question - what’s about autocorrelations. Are the data 
used to compute corrections and to plot the points in the pictures are one 
and the same. What will happen if two samples are totally different (current 
sample if I read it right are stepped points with  0.3 step in rapidity and 
only 0.05 rap. unit spread in impact positions).  What will happen if the 
same corrections are applied away from those areas. 
It always kept me surprised that 1% effect in stochastic term (from 13% to 
14%) may easily be simulated by misattribution of a 5% constant term due to 
energy leakage and this is what autocorrelations do.
                Edward.  


On Jun 1, 2017, at 10:29 AM, John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov> wrote:

Joe,

Thanks, that's exactly what I was thinking of. The calorimeter big guys 
should comment, but it seems to me that slide is the complete answer to the 
question, "What is the resolution of the EMCAL in sPHENIX for single isolated 
particles in simulation?"  Of course, there are many other resolutions that 
matter to us, like what any of these plots would look like when embedded in 
minbias events and whatnot, but I think this is the kind of clearly 
documented performance plot that Gunther talked about.

Perhaps putting this in a one or two page document that collects the 
technical data about it (what data was used, what detector models were turned 
on, and so on), maybe even in a git repository with the code, would assure us 
that we know what it is, where it comes from, and what might change as our 
understanding of the detector evolves.

Before you go to that trouble, we should agree on a way of systematically 
doing it that we all agree on, but this is very good.

On 6/1/17 9:59 AM, Joe Osborn wrote:
> Dear John and all,
> Attached is, what I think is, the plot you requested. Please let me know if 
> you have any comments about it. I averaged the position corrected 
> resolutions over eta since they were very similar and so that each panel 
> would not be extraordinarily cluttered.
> To Jin: I will get started on a recalibration module with the calibration 
> constants.
> Joe
> ---------------------------------------
> Joe Osborn
> Ph.D Candidate
> University of Michigan
> jdosbo AT umich.edu <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu>
> (859) 433-8738
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 12:26 PM, John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov 
> <mailto:haggerty AT bnl.gov>> wrote:
>    Joe,
>    Very nice work.  For the next round of the CDR, I'm thinking you
>    could contribute these plots:
>    1) Resolution with "ideal" light collection
>    2) Uncorrected resolution with position dependent light collection
>    3) Position corrected resolution
>    4) Position corrected resolution with some random channel-to-channel
>    "calibration" errors
>    I think you have the first three, which would look handsome on 2x2
>    canvases, one for e+, one for e-, one for photons.  Does that sound
>    like a good idea?
>    Also, another thing we have to revise is the discussion of sampling
>    fraction; it used to be 2.4%, but I think it is more like 2% now,
>    and I'm not quite sure how it varies in eta.
>    On 5/31/17 9:11 AM, Joe Osborn wrote:
>        Dear EMCalers,
>        Following Jin's suggestion, I implemented a leading order
>        position dependent recalibration on the energy response for
>        photons, electrons, and positrons. The results are attached in
>        this email.
>        Please note that the "before recalibration" plots are not the
>        exact same as what I sent before as I was inadvertently only
>        using 10% of the simulation that Chris produced (whoops). The
>        results here are using the entire single particle production.
>        The position dependent recalibration reduces the constant term
>        by 1-2% for each eta bin.
>        Thanks,
>        Joe Osborn
>        ---------------------------------------
>        Joe Osborn
>        Ph.D Candidate
>        University of Michigan
>        jdosbo AT umich.edu <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu>
>        <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu>>
>        (859) 433-8738 <tel:%28859%29%20433-8738>
>        On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Joe Osborn <jdosbo AT umich.edu
>        <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu> <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu
>        <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu>>> wrote:
>             Hi John,
>             Chris sent a couple of emails out to the software lists,
>        but I guess
>             not the other lists. It might be too late as the BBQ might
>        already
>             be fired up, but for anyone who wants to take a look the G4
>        hits
>             files are located in the following directory:
>             /sphenix/data/data02/review_2017-08-02/
>             Joe
>             ---------------------------------------
>             Joe Osborn
>             Ph.D Candidate
>             University of Michigan
>        jdosbo AT umich.edu <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu>
>        <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu <mailto:jdosbo AT umich.edu>>
>        (859) 433-8738 <tel:%28859%29%20433-8738> <tel:(859)%20433-8738>
>             On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:04 PM, John Haggerty
>        <haggerty AT bnl.gov <mailto:haggerty AT bnl.gov>
>             <mailto:haggerty AT bnl.gov <mailto:haggerty AT bnl.gov>>> wrote:
>                 Joe,
>                 Thanks to Joe, Jin, and Chris for these results.  There is
>                 obviously some bouncy behavior that seems a little odd,
>        but I
>                 know that even in very simple cases, getting "the
>        resolution" at
>                 the few percent level is not as simple as it sounds.
>                 Just to be clear--this is with the right detector material
>                 budget in front of the EMCAL, all events from (0,0,0), and
>                 Sean's light collection map in every tower?
>                 Probably as you say nobody's going to have time between the
>                 barbecue this weekend and the upcoming barbecues at the
>        lab, but
>                 you might ask Chris to post their location to the wiki
>        and the
>                 emcal and hcal lists.
>                 On 5/26/17 3:37 PM, Joe Osborn wrote:
>                     Dear EMCalers,
>                     As Jin presented in the simulations/EMCal meeting
>        this week,
>                     he has updated the EMCal simulations with the tower
>        tilting
>                     in azimuth and polar directions, amongst other
>        changes. With
>                     the simulations code tagged, Chris produced single
>        particle
>                     simulations that people can play with before we start
>                     producing large batches of simulations.
>                     Attached are the resolution of the EMCal for photons,
>                     electrons, and positrons in several different eta
>        bins. Just
>                     to be clear, the single particles were thrown for 9
>                     different energies in the four different eta regions
>                     surrounding the values quoted in my plots (i.e. eta=0
>                     corresponds to truth particles being thrown in
>        +/-0.05 units
>                     of pseudorapidity around 0, same for eta=0.3,0.6,
>        and 0.9).
>                     Any comments would be great, or perhaps everyone
>        will be too
>                     busy enjoying the long weekend in which case we can
>        also
>                     discuss them at the EMCal meeting next week.
>                     Thanks,
>                     Joe
>                     ---------------------------------------
>                     Joe Osborn
>                     Ph.D Candidate
>                     University of Michigan
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