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- From: woody <woody AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] One more thing
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 17:26:07 -0400
Hi John^2, I've heard about such effects before but I must say I don't understand the mechanism for it. Kurtis Johnson mentions it in the Particle Data Book but says that "the data are sketchy and mechanisms not understood". I have to admit, it's not something you hear about a lot, but that's not to say there isn't some possible effect due to the magnetic field. He also says that not all types of scintillators are affected, so maybe ours isn't. I don't know whether the magnet over in Instrumentation is still up and running but I guess maybe we should check ours. Cheers, Craig On 10/24/2016 2:48 PM, John Lajoie
wrote:
Hi John, Wow, I wouldn't have thought that would be a significant effect! We have a number of things that are all pointing towards
more light - new tiles, magnetic field effect. It's a good
situation to be in, I suppose, but this is all going to
complicate getting the gains right to avoid saturation. John On 10/24/2016 12:30 PM, John Haggerty
wrote:
Thanks again to John Lajoie for organizing the weekend get-away to Ames. There was one other thing I meant to move from my notebook to the record, which has to do with the effect of magnetic field on scintillator. There are other references out there, but this is a good starting point: Maurizio Bertoldi, Daniel R. Green, Vasken Hagopian, John Marraffino, Anatoly Ronzhin, James Thomaston, Scintillators in magnetic fields up to 20 T, Nuclear Instruments and Methods in Physics Research Section A: Accelerators, Spectrometers, Detectors and Associated Equipment, Volume 386, Issue 2, 1997, Pages 301-306, ISSN 0168-9002, http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0168-9002(96)01178-3. (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168900296011783) Abstract: Plastic scintillators and wavelength shifting fibers have been placed in magnetic fields of up to 20 T and the change in light yield measured. The light yield in scintillators increases at very low magnetic fields and continues to increase with increasing field until saturation at about 2 T. The maximum increase is between 6% and 8%, depending on the plastic composition. This increase is due to the polymer and not due to the dyes (fluors) used in the scintillators. No change of light yield due to magnetic fields has been observed in wavelength shifting fibers. There's a magnet in Instrumentation that I think we could use to see what the effect on our tiles is so we know what to expect. --
John Lajoie Professor of Physics Iowa State University
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[Sphenix-hcal-l] One more thing,
John Haggerty, 10/24/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] One more thing,
John Lajoie, 10/24/2016
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] One more thing, eric mannel, 10/24/2016
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] One more thing, woody, 10/24/2016
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] One more thing,
John Lajoie, 10/24/2016
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