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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!
- From: Stefan Bathe <bathe AT bnl.gov>
- To: Edward O'Brien <eobrien AT bnl.gov>
- Cc: "sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!
- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 18:33:26 +0200
Hi Ed,
We haven’t removed any tiles from the gap yet. Our feeling sliding them in
was that they went in very smoothly. So we don’t expect any issues. But
Aaron and Dan are going to remove some tiles to find out.
Regards,
Stefan
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Stefan Bathe
Professor of Physics
Baruch College, CUNY
Baruch: BNL:
17 Lexington Ave Bldg. 510
office 940 office 2-229
phone 646-660-6272 phone 631-344-8490
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> On Jun 28, 2019, at 12:24 AM, O'Brien, Edward <eobrien AT bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Hi Stefan,
> I was curious about the condition of the tiles after they were
> removed from the single gap. Was there any evidence of nicks
> or dimples in the wrapping material? I was a little concerned about the
> condition
> of the steel surfaces within the gaps, or even relic machine shop shards
> or grit that remains inside the sectors. Did you see any evidence of
> that?
> Thanks.
>
> Ed
>
>
> On 6/14/2019 11:06 AM, Stefan Bathe wrote:
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I just answered most of your questions in my other message. But let me
>> repeat here:
>>
>>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 9:58 AM, Lajoie, John G [PHYSA] <lajoie AT iastate.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stefan,
>>>
>>> Awesome!
>>>
>>> A few more detailed questions that can't be determined from the
>>> photographs -
>>>
>>> 1) How snug were the tiles? Any problems?
>> You mean in terms of thickness? No issue whatsoever! (Of course we only
>> tested one gap, and the gaps vary. But we check all gaps with the gap
>> gauge when the sectors arrive. So I’m confident there will be no issue
>> here.)
>>
>>> 2) I seem to recall we were planning to some sort of foam spacer at the
>>> end of the tiles to help them stay centered in the gap. Was this also
>>> implemented, or am I remembering this wrong.
>> We discussed this again yesterday as we went along. But we don’t have
>> this in hand yet. (This is to fill out the empty triangle that arises
>> between the straight edge of the sector and the diagonal edge of the last
>> tile, to make sure the tiles don’t fan out in the front where there is no
>> clip to hold them). I still think this is a good idea. Richie thinks
>> it’s a lot of material, and in principle not necessary since the front
>> edge of the tiles lines up with the front edge of the steel, and therefore
>> the tiles can’t pivot. The line-up is not perfect. So there is a small
>> gap, allowing for some pivoting. But we plan to fill this gap with a
>> strip of foam. As I said, I still think we should put a filler into that
>> triangular space. This way we just avoid any issues with creating gaps
>> between the tiles.
>>
>>> 3) How snug were the tiles laterally? We've been a bit worried because
>>> the shape measurements with the cardboard templates might not be very
>>> indicative with the wrapped tiles and they could be a bit snug laterally.
>>>
>> It worked very smoothly. We started from the center and worked our way
>> out to the edges, just nudging the tiles to each other one by one as we
>> installed them with a long cardboard strip (we will use wood in the
>> future). There was no issue whatsoever getting the last tile in, and
>> there was no gap whatsoever at the end. Couldn’t have been better, I’d
>> say. (There is some wiggle room that comes from the not perfectly tight
>> wrapping of the tiles, I think, which made it appear just perfect.)
>> As I said in my other message, we did not install the clips (waiting for
>> hardware). I’m confident the holes will lign up. But this needs to be
>> confirmed with an actual test, of course.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stefan
>>
>>
>>> Thanks to the group that completed this!
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: sPHENIX-HCal-l <sphenix-hcal-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> On Behalf Of
>>> Stefan Bathe
>>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 12:10 AM
>>> To: sphenix-hcal-l AT lists.bnl.gov
>>> Subject: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single
>>> gap--success!
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> This afternoon a bunch of us made sure that we can actually fit all 24
>>> tiles into a single gap of an outer HCal sector along eta.—It worked!
>>> Here are some photos for your enjoyment:
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__photos.app.goo.gl_wWNGACoDgLHuLhgz9&d=DwIGaQ&c=aTOVZmpUfPKZuaG9NO7J7Mh6imZbfhL47t9CpZ-pCOw&r=3Kef6foBA0XguSdT48aDjQ&m=KsYSgX3zoDTcdYNe_UW9CPwzhTGVEsUISp2D8w-mA0c&s=KwjCJWigVYf_Nq9gz92GfHUTaS_YHlfcTxnKcPu_kjo&e=
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Stefan
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>>> Stefan Bathe
>>> Professor of Physics
>>> Baruch College, CUNY
>>>
>>> Baruch: BNL:
>>> 17 Lexington Ave Bldg. 510
>>> office 940 office 2-229
>>> phone 646-660-6272 phone 631-344-8490
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[Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
Stefan Bathe, 06/13/2019
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!, BNL Mail, 06/13/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
Lajoie, John G [PHYSA], 06/14/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
Stefan Bathe, 06/14/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
O'Brien, Edward, 06/27/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
Stefan Bathe, 06/28/2019
- Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!, O'Brien, Edward, 06/28/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
Stefan Bathe, 06/28/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
O'Brien, Edward, 06/27/2019
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Re: [Sphenix-hcal-l] First fit of all 24 tiles into a single gap--success!,
Stefan Bathe, 06/14/2019
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