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[Sphenix-l] Minutes of sPHENIX general meeting on 3/3/2017
- From: David Morrison <morrison AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: [Sphenix-l] Minutes of sPHENIX general meeting on 3/3/2017
- Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 08:32:15 -0500
Hi all,
Thanks go out to Carlos Perez for taking notes at the general meeting.
Regards
Dave and Gunther
================================================ Next meeting will be held on March 17th at noon ET.
Agenda Items: - sPHENIX news (Dave & Gunther) - Project news (Ed) - MVTX proposal and physics goals (Ming) - “Moderate forward upgrade” (Nils & Christine) - Luminosity and rate expectations (Jamie)
Discussion and action items:
sPHENIX news (Dave & Gunther) ============
Discussion with Berndt Müller after QM about several scenarios of funding and the MAPS. He advised us that sPHENIX should be planning for a multi-year program. Berndt has talked publicly about 4 years; Tim Hallman's RHIC Users' meeting slides show sPHENIX running from 2022 to ">2025".
This new “degree of freedom” is an opportunity to develop a commissioning and upgrade plan.
Separate MAPS from baseline detector. This will minimize risk during CD1 review. MAPS would have a compelling case providing HF. Even as a separate proposal, doesn't necessarily mean MAPS won't be ready on day-1
Q. from Tony: Would the removal of MAPS weaken the physics case for sPHENIX? A1: CD0 was worded in a very general way so goals will not be compromised by exclusion of MAPS at this stage.
A2: Although, CD1 is not about physics goals but rather cost and schedule, we need to show that the non-HF part of the proposal have to be done with baseline anyway. A3: The use of MAPS is central for HF and we have to defend as part of upgrade with a solid presentation of the upgrade ASAP.
Action agreed to be taken: Simulation of baseline detector only is needed ASAP.
Results from poll: Next collaboration meeting will be held June 13th,14th (Tue, Wed) at BNL. Just before the PAC meeting (Jun 15th, 16th). Action suggested: If you want to host following collaboration meeting (end of year), encourage you to let us know.
Action taken: Have asked C-AD through Berndt for C-AD estimates of projected luminosities beyond 2023.
Project news (Ed) ============
Preparation for CD1. Just had a very successful preparation workfest at BNL with L2 and L3 managers. Documentation is now centralized in the docdb server (set up recently). A lot of detailed material gathered that needs to be further reviewed and completed.
Have received authorization to release R&D funds on sPHENIX. Q. from Tom: Can we use it right away? A. Let me come back to you early next week about this.
MVTX proposal and physics goals (Ming) ============
Preparing for review. Q. from Dave: MVTX proposal ongoing, Is it planned a coordinating effort with HF topical group? How do you want to do this? C. Gunther: MAPS proposal will not be baseline. Need to adapt this part of the physics case into a broader physics program that include b-tagged jets and current open questions regarding open HF. Very little capability of HF with baseline proposal (dielectrons?), we should focus HF case with usage of MVTX.
Action agreed to be taken: Jin will organize a meeting to start construction of framework for fast simulation of openHF in order to get physics plots.
Q. from Ed: Are you planning an internal rehearsal (before BNL directors’) for the MVTX proposal? A: Yes. At the moment we need to focus on preparation. Simulations are already happening. We also plan to hold cost/schedule workfest in coming weeks.
“Moderate forward upgrade” (discussion led Nils & Christine) ============
C. Christine: Very important to define time and cost.That will allow us to make a solid plan in terms of physics and not of beam availability.
Action agreed to be taken: Ask what time scale and money ‘scale’ Berndt has in mind and how the proposal should be presented.
C: Might be easier to report direct cost and no labor, etc.
Luminosity and rate expectations (Jamie) ============
C: Very provocative extrapolations and very informative presentation.
Next step needed: Survey among L2 manager to have an expectation of subsystems response to coming luminosities.
C. Jin: Due to physical dimension of detectors. Eta coverage for primary vertexes beyond 10cm reduces quickly and should be considered regarding the planning of physics topics.
-- David Morrison Brookhaven National Laboratory phone: 631-344-5840 Physics Department, Bldg 510 C fax: 631-344-3253 Upton, NY 11973-5000 email: dave AT bnl.gov
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