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  • From: Craig Woody <woody AT bnl.gov>
  • To: sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov, eic-dsg-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of 2018 EIC-sPHENIX Document
  • Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 09:48:06 -0400

Dear All,
I think the LoI looks very nice and provides a very reasonable plan as to how sPHENIX could evolve into a very capable EIC detector that would be ready to take physics data at the startup of eRHIC. It's clear that a lot work went into preparing it and it contains a great deal of very useful information. I didn't try and go through the entire document and edit it in great detail, but I thought I would share a few detector related comments.
The first is regarding the DIRC. Figure 2.1 shows the DIRC which looks like it goes back to the original ePHENIX LoI. It shows the DIRC bars extending for ~ 5 m, which are presumably the actual radiator bars used by the BaBar DIRC. We talked about using these without any modification at the time of the ePHENIX LoI (circa 2013-2014), but in the present detector concept in which we would have either a focusing DIRC or a TOP DIRC, I don't see why the radiators bars would need to extend out to 5 m (assuming we would use a solid state photodetector like a SiPM or APD, or a MCP). We don't show the expansion volume that was part of the ePHENIX LoI, so we must be assuming we would use some form of readout of this type (and we even say this in the current LoI). It then looks odd to me to see the radiator bars extend so far. Since the figure is really just a cartoon anyway, I would shorten the Barrel DIRC region to just beyond the EMCAL in the electron going direction. We should also keep in mind that the some of the original BaBar DIRC bars have already been given or promised to other experiments (GlueX and TORCH), and that they probably couldn't be used in sPHENIX anyway without some significant modification (the are contained in so-called bar boxes which probably won't fit inside the EMCAL envelope). I think showing a DIRC for PID in the central region is fine, but I would keep it more generic at this stage of the design. This might also affect what is shown in Figure 2.4, but I don't see where this figure is actually referred to in the text anyway.
The only other comment I had was regarding Figure 2.3 and the discussion about the sPHENIX EMCAL resolution. The left hand plot in Figure 2.3 is fine since this is now published (or about to be) in our IEEE TNS paper. However, the right hand plot for the large eta prototype is for the V2 prototype that was measured in 2017. The new V2.1 prototype which we measured in 2018 showed better resolution (~ 14-15%/SQRT(E) with ~ 3% constant term). The analysis of that data is being done at UIUC and may not be quite finalized yet, and it may not make a great deal of difference as far as what we say about it in the LoI, but since these kinds of documents often wind up getting distributed and quoted in far away places, it may be best to put our best foot forward in terms of what we show here. We could check with Anne Sickles and see if those test beam analysis results are ready to be made public yet. Also, just better clarity, we should say the the large eta measurements were done for eta ~ 0.9 (not just eta > 0.15), which was the case for both the 2017 and 2018 data.

Cheers,
Craig


On 9/14/2018 8:29 PM, David Morrison wrote:
Dear collaborators,

We're pleased to announce that a draft response to ALD Berndt Mueller's
charge asking for an update to the 2013 sPHENIX/EIC letter of intent is
available for review. A big thanks to Christine and Nils for
shepherding this effort, and as they note below, a big thanks also to
the many people who've contributed to the studies and writing that
comprise the draft. The current draft can be downloaded here:

https://www.sphenix.bnl.gov/web/draft-sphenixeic-loi

Please provide comments by the end of the day on September 26, 2018. We
are due to deliver the document to the ALD by September 30, 2018.

As the draft was authored both by sPHENIX collaborators and by EIC
interested friends from outside the collaboration, we'll need to be
flexible about how we collect comments on the draft. We have the
sPHENIX mailing list sPHENIX-notes-l, which is intended for discussion
of note drafts among sPHENIX collaborators. And there is also the
eic-DSG-l mailing list, which is not limited to sPHENIX collaborators
and was set up for discussions of the EIC detector study group. Send
your comments to either of these lists and we'll ask the note's authors
to compile the responses.

Regards and happy reading,
Dave and Gunther

-------- Forwarded Message --------

Dear Dave and Gunther,

please forward the attached draft of the document for "An EIC Detector
Based On sPHENIX" to the collaboration for review.

The draft is the product of many people pushing this concept over the
years and focused activities in the more recently established EIC
Detector Study Group. We thank all the people who have contributed to
it. Please have a look and let us know your thoughts and suggestions by
September 26th.

The document is still work in progress. While most of the content we
intend to include is there (we only need to add the Executive Summary
and Conclusions), the text likely needs some editing. Therefore, when
reviewing the draft, please focus on the content, messages, and figures
first. We will keep you posted about major updates to the draft.

Best,
Christine & Nils






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