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Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022
- From: Martin Purschke <purschke AT bnl.gov>
- To: Ross Corliss <ross.corliss AT stonybrook.edu>
- Cc: sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022
- Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2022 16:04:43 -0400
Hi Ross,
yes, that ping-pong scheme refers to file systems on each of the bufferboxes.
Best,
Martin
On 7/3/22 15:46, Ross Corliss wrote:
Dear Martin,
Thank you for fleshing out the details for me. I take it the two file
systems you refer to are identical pairs within each buffer box, and not the
HPSS vs SDCC distinction? I will clarify this (and perhaps add a backup
slide to support).
I will correct 100ns to 110ns, and rest assured that I will say a bit more
out loud than is written on the slide.
-Ross
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Center for Frontiers in Nuclear Science
Stony Brook University
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On Jul 3, 2022, at 3:35 PM, Martin Purschke via sPHENIX-l
<sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Ross,
nice talk.
Just a correction, slide 5 - "Buffer boxes fill during peak lumi, drain out at end of
fill". Not technically correct. I would say "The buffer boxes level the incoming data
rates and allow us to send the average, rather than the peak rates to HPSS."
Some more background for questions: In principle it would be sufficient to operate the
system as a "leaky bucket" where a variable rate of water flows in and a
steady rate flows out. The differences in incoming rate is carried by the varying water
level in the bucket (buffering).
For technical reasons we write the data to one of two file systems. When the
written-to one hits a high-water mark, we clear the other (that has meanwhile
been transferred to HPSS), and switch their roles. In this way one is only
written to and the other is only read from, which dramatically increases the
throughput (minimizing the disks' head movements).
Since our buffer depth is large enough that we can average over several
stores (5-10) and their no-data fill time, and also cover breaks for
accesses, and often no-data MD and APEX days, we can take advantage of the
significantly lower average data rate compared to the peak rates. The HPSS
and SDCC transfers only need to be able to sustain that average rate (plus a
bit of reserve).
Slide 6
non-RHIC folks will wonder where the 100ns come from (which should actually be 110ns ==
1 beam crossing). I would try to bring across that the acquisition window needs to
cover ~118 crossings (those 13 us) to get the data just from the triggered-on crossing,
and by extending the window by n additional crossings we increase the covered crossings
by a factor of n. This small delta is the "almost for free" aspect.
Hope it helps. Good luck with the talk.
Martin
On 7/3/22 14:05, Ross Corliss via sPHENIX-l wrote:
Dear All,
I've posted draft slides for the sPHENIX data reconstruction talk at
https://indico.bnl.gov/event/16174/contributions/64794/attachments/41947/70236/sPHENIX.Data.Reco.ICHEP.2022.pdf
<https://indico.bnl.gov/event/16174/contributions/64794/attachments/41947/70236/sPHENIX.Data.Reco.ICHEP.2022.pdf>
The time slot is 15 minutes, so I assume 12.5+2.5 for talk+questions. It takes
place in the computing session on Friday, July 8:
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://agenda.infn.it/event/28874/contributions/169210/__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!FnRR__MLRobMWa9WoLiooTD_WLdoqxFiyqbtzXosExVRCOyepC0zGSkm4chx950n7db4og4e-1Ol-P_A_0QTF-bQT3M2ug$
<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://agenda.infn.it/event/28874/contributions/169210/__;!!P4SdNyxKAPE!HOjf-fN0HvR_ZMzbk6AZHmhZWHNGkfVDRTWXzeaMUH5cToXrNDht4HVvHfG3hFtfxRIteJAtIzHm0zt3PVyFNHpi1G3TLAwlQzk$>
(11:30 AM local conference time)
I welcome any comments or suggestions you may have, and I'll second Murad's
earlier thanks to all the speakers who have uploaded their slides for the
collaboration meeting and other recent reports.
Gratefully,
-Ross
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Dr. Ross Corliss
Research Assistant Professor
Center for Frontiers in Nuclear Science
Stony Brook University
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[Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022,
Ross Corliss, 07/03/2022
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Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022,
Martin Purschke, 07/03/2022
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Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022,
Ross Corliss, 07/03/2022
- Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022, Martin Purschke, 07/03/2022
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Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022,
Ross Corliss, 07/03/2022
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Re: [Sphenix-l] Draft of Data Reconstruction talk for ICHEP 2022,
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