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Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Fwd: Babar coil without end caps
- From: EdwardOBrien <eobrien AT bnl.gov>
- To: sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov, John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>, Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Fwd: Babar coil without end caps
- Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:00:56 -0400
Hi John, Kin,
I'd like to make sure that I understand this.
In Pasquale's answers to Kin's questions
he wrote:
8) The compressing force of 380 MT can be held by the coil
(about 10 MPa compression)
9) The effect of type, size and position of iron tips shall be
carefully evaluated.
10) Without iron tip the radial field at the coil ends
increases, causing an increase of the axial force.
During the factory test (without yoke) we limited the
field to 1/3 of the nominal field. For this coil it is better
not overcome 20 MPa axial pressure on coil.
Now he has written that the compressive force w/o
the endcaps increase the compressive fore by 85%.
Do I interpret this to mean that at BaBar the coil operated
with a 10 MPa compressive axial force and that w/o the pole tips
we will be operating with something 85% higher, or 18.5 MPa?
If so we are approaching the the 20MPa axial pressure he warned
us not to exceed.
Also do you understand what sets the 20 MPa threshold? Is
that the shear strength of the epoxy connection between the
coil and the mandrel?
Thanks.
Ed
On 3/26/2015 1:43 PM, John Haggerty wrote:
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Subject: Babar coil without end caps
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:30:13 +0100
From: fabbric <Pasquale.Fabbricatore AT ge.infn.it>
To: John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>, Yip, Kin <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
CC: Mills, James A <mills AT bnl.gov>, Than, Yatming (Roberto) <ythan AT bnl.gov>
Hi all.
I did a fast computation with Comsol removing the
end caps (indeed I put to 1 the magnetic permeability).
At the same current the central magnetic field is reduced from 1.5 T
to 1.37 T and it is more inhomogeneous.
The peak field on the conductor seems to
be a bit higher and placed at the coil
axial ends (so the current cannot be increased
or we have a reduced stability margin).
The axial compression increases of 85%
(i.e. a bit less than double).
My first impression is that this solution could be considered
if you can accept a reduced magnetic field.
Best regards
Pasquale
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[Sphenix-magnet-l] Fwd: Babar coil without end caps,
John Haggerty, 03/26/2015
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Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Fwd: Babar coil without end caps,
EdwardOBrien, 03/26/2015
- Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Fwd: Babar coil without end caps, Achim Franz, 03/26/2015
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Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Fwd: Babar coil without end caps,
EdwardOBrien, 03/26/2015
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