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  • From: Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Pasquale's comments on "field measurement ... misalignment
  • Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:09:04 -0400

Hi,

Below is Pasquale's comments when I asked him about magnetic field measurements ... misalignment.

The "Tie_rods_radial.pdf" is something many of us have seen in the documents (of BaBar server).   But the
other "Coil Alignment.pdf" is from his own notes (--- he told me in another email when I asked him).

At least for me, it's interesting that he told us which strain gauge would be loaded and unloaded at what temperature ....

Kin


-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: field measurement ... misalignment Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:32:02 +0200 From: fabbric <Pasquale.Fabbricatore AT ge.infn.it> To: Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>

Kin,
for the test at 100 A I would only use some Hall probes in the bore
of the magnet (the center)  for checking the
ratio Field/Current in the operating condition for being sure no major 
problems are.

No more than that.  Later you will need a detailled  field mapping, 
especially if you
change the iron configuration moving the end caps.
The alignment should  be done mechanically. About the alignment
I am looking for some material. I know (because it was an idea of mine)  
that the coil was placed with
the axis (look at the attached page) displaced about 3 mm down. The 
reason was that at room temperature
the coil is suspended at 8 of the tie-rods (see II attached figure):
T1,T8,T3,T6 at one side, T11,T18,T13,T16 at the opposite side.
The remaining tie-rods should be almost unloaded.

Cooling down the coil, the suspending tie-rods contracts and the coil 
moves up
of about 2.5 - 3 mm.
At 4.2K  also the remaining tie-rods are a bit loaded.
Kin, I am not completely sure about that (too long time ago). However this
is a point to be fully understood before cooling down the coil.
May be you could try obtaining further information by SLAC
( They operated the magnet for 10 years).


Pasquale


Il 17/06/2015 22:12, Kin Yip ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> Or, is it something that you'd worry about ??  ( The physicists tend 
> not to worry about it too much ... )
>
> Kin
>
> On 06/17/2015 03:42 PM, Kin Yip wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some of us (in our sPHENIX project) are asking whether we should do 
>> some magnetic field measurement (during our 100 A test or full 
>> current test).
>> We thought a little and it's not easy and non-trivial ...
>>
>> In BaBar, as far as you know, have they tried to measure magnetic 
>> fields to find misalignment (the "magnetic center") etc. ?   Any 
>> experience that you
>> may share with us  ?
>>
>> Kin
>
>


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Attachment: Coil Alignment.pdf
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Attachment: Tie_rods_radial.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document




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