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Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch
- From: Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>
- To: John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>, sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch
- Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 10:21:19 -0400
Hi John, Wuzheng told me that even you flip the sign of the magnetic field, the forces don't change as the forces depend on the configuration (distances between the coil and the pole tips on two different ends). At least, he's used the following way to explain to me (or fool me): a small magnet would be attracted to his metal cabinet and even if you flip the small magnet (so that North/South pole reverses), it's still attracted to the metal cabinet in the same way :-) If we change polarity once in a RHIC run, the cheapest way is just to exchange the two power cables and we just need to make sure that the power cables have enough lengths to reach both sockets to be plugged in etc. Kin On 07/10/2015 10:05 AM, John Haggerty
wrote:
Dave, From the experiment's point of view, if we could reverse the field, we would only do so once or twice during a long RHIC run, as we do in PHENIX. To me, it has always been an unproved assertion that there is all that much benefit from reversing the field in order to understand the systematic errors in the tracking, because after you do it, you have to recalibrate everything, but whenever you change the conditions of an experiment in a controlled way, there is the potential to learn something. I didn't reply earlier because it's not clear at all to me whether reversing the polarity is feasible from the point of view of mechanical stress and strain and the effects on the magnet in the case of a quench. After thinking about it, I'd have to defer that to experts who could calculate it. But it seems to me that we would not need to reverse the polarity any more than PHENIX or STAR does now, and it takes a while to ramp up and ramp down anyway, so going to the trouble and expense of having a reversing switch does not seem necessary. I suppose we might want to start with the field "the same direction" as in BaBar... if we can figure out what that was. On 7/9/15 1:34 PM, Phillips, David B wrote:The power supply/dump resistor from SLAC does not have a reversing switch. Do we want/need one for sPHENIX? David Phillips Building 911B Upton, NY 11973 631-344-4671, Fax 631-344-5954, Cell 631-804-9477 _______________________________________________ Sphenix-magnet-l mailing list Sphenix-magnet-l AT lists.bnl.gov https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/sphenix-magnet-l |
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[Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch,
Phillips, David B, 07/09/2015
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Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch,
John Haggerty, 07/10/2015
- Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch, Kin Yip, 07/10/2015
- Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch, EdwardOBrien, 07/10/2015
- Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch - a slightly corrected version, EdwardOBrien, 07/10/2015
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Re: [Sphenix-magnet-l] Power Supply Reversing Switch,
John Haggerty, 07/10/2015
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