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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version)
- From: "Frawley, Anthony" <afrawley AT fsu.edu>
- To: "Ming Liu (ming AT bnl.gov)" <ming AT bnl.gov>, sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Frawley, Anthony" <afrawley AT fsu.edu>
- Cc: phenix-team <p25henp-l AT lanl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version)
- Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:07:28 +0000
Hello Ming,
I read through section 5. Here are some comments and suggestions. Most are just grammar, but figure 1 in section 4 may need a decision, see comment below.
Cheers
Tony
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Abstract
l 71
We propose to build Monolithic-...
->
We propose to build a Monolithic-...
Executive Summary:
l 90
It will allow U.S. scientists to explore fundamental questions into the nature of the QGP
->
It will allow U.S. scientists to explore fundamental inquiries into the nature of the QGP
Section 2:
l 123
and an example of complementary to the LHC:
->
and an example of complementarity to the LHC:
Section 2.1:
l 138
diffusion coefficient (2pTDs), the QGP medium transport parameter
->
diffusion coefficient (2pTDs), the QGP medium transport parameter,
l 145
will be also crucial -> will be crucial
l 149
should the TOF realized and -> should the TOF be realized, and
Section 2.2:
l 171
crosses the medium as massive quark (color triplet state).
->
crosses the medium as a massive quark (color triplet state).
Section 3, introduction;
l 179
and a outer time projection chamber (TPC)
->
and an outer time projection chamber (TPC)
l 186
invariant mass resolution of around 80 MeV
->
(let's stick with < 100 MeV for now)
invariant mass resolution of < 100 MeV
Section 3.1:
l 194
precision vertex displacement measurement for all tracks
->
a precision vertex displacement measurement for all tracks
l 205
where multiple scattering is dominating
->
where multiple scattering is dominant
l 206
reduce the material budget of inner tracking detector
->
reduce the material budget of the inner tracking detector
l 207
detection of a few displacement tracks
->
detection of a few displaced vertex tracks
Section 4:
Figure 1:
The INTT layers in this figure pretty clearly do not cover the acceptance of sPHENIX.
For now, maybe just extend the INTT lines and say in the caption that the these show the
radial position of the INTT, before saying the design is still being optimized.
Also, perhaps add a comment to the text that changes to the readout cone of the MVTX
are being considered to accomodate the INTT.
l 239
The radial distance between the three layers as small as possible
->
The radial distance between the three layers should be as small as possible
l 241
Reduction of material budget -> Reduction of the material budget
Se3ction 5:
l 285
MVTX is the key device in sPHENIX to
->
The MVTX is the key device in sPHENIX to
l 294
shown in the left panel of Figure 5,
(figure 5 is a single panel)
l 295
demonstrate the the proposed MAPS
->
demonstrate that the proposed MAPS
l 296
and enable cross check of the systematic uncertainties
->
and enable cross checks of the systematic uncertainties
l 301
we performed full sPHENIX detector
->
we performed a full sPHENIX detector
l 322
modification of inclusive b-jet is shown
->
modification of inclusive b-jets is shown
l 331
state with two times of b-quark mass
->
state with twice the b-quark mass
l 333
MVTX detector -> The MVTX detector
l 336
b-jet candidate be correlated -> b-jet candidate to be correlated
l338
using MVTX and sPHENIX -> using the MVTX and sPHENIX
l 340
of transverse momentum balance
->
of the transverse momentum balance
l 341
which is comparable precision
->
which is comparable in precision
l 361
tracks that coming from the primary heavy-ion collisions
->
tracks that come from the primary heavy-ion collisions
l 363
simulation offers the -> simulation includes the
l 367
in the pT of 4-5 GeV/c -> in the pT range of 4-5 GeV/c
l 368
100M 0-10% central Au+Au events..
->
100M 0-10% central Au+Au events.
(100M?? where did that come from?)
l 391
collision rate up -> a collision rate of up
l 392
integration time of MVTX MAPS chip
->
integration time of the MVTX MAPS chip
l 394
Based on above numbers -> Based on the above numbers
l 395
Preliminary study shows -> A preliminary study shows that
l 402
to the INTT and the inner TPC which has a much longer integration time (~ 18 ms) than that of the MVTX
->
to the INTT, and to the inner TPC which has a much longer integration time (~ 18 ms) than that of the MVTX
(the INTT is fast, do not want to lump it with the TPC)
l 403
Full GEANT analysis framework -> A full GEANT analysis framework
l 404
more detailed -> and more detailed
l 71
We propose to build Monolithic-...
->
We propose to build a Monolithic-...
Executive Summary:
l 90
It will allow U.S. scientists to explore fundamental questions into the nature of the QGP
->
It will allow U.S. scientists to explore fundamental inquiries into the nature of the QGP
Section 2:
l 123
and an example of complementary to the LHC:
->
and an example of complementarity to the LHC:
Section 2.1:
l 138
diffusion coefficient (2pTDs), the QGP medium transport parameter
->
diffusion coefficient (2pTDs), the QGP medium transport parameter,
l 145
will be also crucial -> will be crucial
l 149
should the TOF realized and -> should the TOF be realized, and
Section 2.2:
l 171
crosses the medium as massive quark (color triplet state).
->
crosses the medium as a massive quark (color triplet state).
Section 3, introduction;
l 179
and a outer time projection chamber (TPC)
->
and an outer time projection chamber (TPC)
l 186
invariant mass resolution of around 80 MeV
->
(let's stick with < 100 MeV for now)
invariant mass resolution of < 100 MeV
Section 3.1:
l 194
precision vertex displacement measurement for all tracks
->
a precision vertex displacement measurement for all tracks
l 205
where multiple scattering is dominating
->
where multiple scattering is dominant
l 206
reduce the material budget of inner tracking detector
->
reduce the material budget of the inner tracking detector
l 207
detection of a few displacement tracks
->
detection of a few displaced vertex tracks
Section 4:
Figure 1:
The INTT layers in this figure pretty clearly do not cover the acceptance of sPHENIX.
For now, maybe just extend the INTT lines and say in the caption that the these show the
radial position of the INTT, before saying the design is still being optimized.
Also, perhaps add a comment to the text that changes to the readout cone of the MVTX
are being considered to accomodate the INTT.
l 239
The radial distance between the three layers as small as possible
->
The radial distance between the three layers should be as small as possible
l 241
Reduction of material budget -> Reduction of the material budget
Se3ction 5:
l 285
MVTX is the key device in sPHENIX to
->
The MVTX is the key device in sPHENIX to
l 294
shown in the left panel of Figure 5,
(figure 5 is a single panel)
l 295
demonstrate the the proposed MAPS
->
demonstrate that the proposed MAPS
l 296
and enable cross check of the systematic uncertainties
->
and enable cross checks of the systematic uncertainties
l 301
we performed full sPHENIX detector
->
we performed a full sPHENIX detector
l 322
modification of inclusive b-jet is shown
->
modification of inclusive b-jets is shown
l 331
state with two times of b-quark mass
->
state with twice the b-quark mass
l 333
MVTX detector -> The MVTX detector
l 336
b-jet candidate be correlated -> b-jet candidate to be correlated
l338
using MVTX and sPHENIX -> using the MVTX and sPHENIX
l 340
of transverse momentum balance
->
of the transverse momentum balance
l 341
which is comparable precision
->
which is comparable in precision
l 361
tracks that coming from the primary heavy-ion collisions
->
tracks that come from the primary heavy-ion collisions
l 363
simulation offers the -> simulation includes the
l 367
in the pT of 4-5 GeV/c -> in the pT range of 4-5 GeV/c
l 368
100M 0-10% central Au+Au events..
->
100M 0-10% central Au+Au events.
(100M?? where did that come from?)
l 391
collision rate up -> a collision rate of up
l 392
integration time of MVTX MAPS chip
->
integration time of the MVTX MAPS chip
l 394
Based on above numbers -> Based on the above numbers
l 395
Preliminary study shows -> A preliminary study shows that
l 402
to the INTT and the inner TPC which has a much longer integration time (~ 18 ms) than that of the MVTX
->
to the INTT, and to the inner TPC which has a much longer integration time (~ 18 ms) than that of the MVTX
(the INTT is fast, do not want to lump it with the TPC)
l 403
Full GEANT analysis framework -> A full GEANT analysis framework
l 404
more detailed -> and more detailed
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Subject: [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version)
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Subject: [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version)
Dear all,
Here is the snapshot of the near final version v1.5 of the MVTX pre-proposal,
And also the overleaf page, where you can find the latest update,
Please try to send us your comments and suggestions (better directly edit the overleaf file) by tomorrow. We plan to submit it on Friday.
Cheers,
Ming, for the MVTX detector group
--
Ming Xiong Liu
P-25, MS H846
TEL: 505-667-7125
Physics Division
631-344-7821(BNL)
LANL
630-840-5708(FNAL)
Los Alamos, NM 87545
FAX:
505-665-7020
From: <sphenix-maps-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of "Ming Liu (LANL)" <ming AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 12:31 AM
To: sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Cc: phenix-team <p25henp-l AT lanl.gov>
Subject: [Sphenix-maps-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.2
Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 at 12:31 AM
To: sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Cc: phenix-team <p25henp-l AT lanl.gov>
Subject: [Sphenix-maps-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.2
Dear all,
Thanks for you all who have made tremendous contributions to the writing of the MVTX pre-proposal.
Following is the snap shot as of tonight, released to the collaboration for review,
And also the overleaf page,
Updated from last version:
- The total cost is now $4.87M, including contingency
- Cost and Schedule are updated with more balanced labor rates.
- All comments and suggestions received are now taken into account in the latest version.
The org chart and cost and schedule figures/tables will be updated tomorrow.
Please try to edit or send your comments by the end of tomorrow if possible, we try to submit the pre-proposal to DOE in next a few days (original target date: Feb 1, but we are running a bit behind the plan, I know everyone is busy with QM and other things)
Cheers,
Ming
--
Ming Xiong Liu
P-25, MS H846
TEL: 505-667-7125
Physics Division
631-344-7821(BNL)
LANL
630-840-5708(FNAL)
Los Alamos, NM 87545
FAX:
505-665-7020
From: <owner-p25henp-l AT maillist.lanl.gov> on behalf of "Ming Liu (LANL)" <ming AT bnl.gov>
Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 10:41 PM
To: sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Cc: phenix-team <p25henp-l AT lanl.gov>
Subject: MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) proposal
Date: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 at 10:41 PM
To: sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Cc: phenix-team <p25henp-l AT lanl.gov>
Subject: MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) proposal
Hi all,
Thanks for all who have contributed to the MIE proposal, we have made very good progress at LBNL finishing up the draft.
Now we also have a new for the full detector : MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX)
Attached is the link to a snapshot of the proposal, v1.0,
and the overleaf Latex page,
Plan for next a few days:
1) Get all inputs/edit by the end of next Monday, Jan 30th, final edit Tuesday 1/31
2) Submit the pre-proposal to DOE a week from now, on Feb 1, 2017. (Wed)
There will be DOE budget meeting scheduled for national labs, 2/15(LANL), 2/16(BNL) and 2/22(LBNL).
Here are names of lead people assigned at workshop to proofreading/editing the draft, by next Monday.
Ch. 1,2,3 - Nu Xu
Ch. 4, 5 – Dave Morrison
Ch. 6 - Mateusz Ploskon
Ch. 7, 8 – Ming Liu, Bob Redwine
Overall draft proofreading - Grazyna, Gunther, Darren, Denis P., Jin, Tony, Dave Lee, Hubert et al.
Cheers,
Ming, for the MVTX detector group
--
Ming Xiong Liu
P-25, MS H846
TEL: 505-667-7125
Physics Division
631-344-7821(BNL)
LANL
630-840-5708(FNAL)
Los Alamos, NM 87545
FAX:
505-665-7020
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[Sphenix-maps-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version),
Ming Liu (ming AT bnl.gov), 02/02/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version),
Frawley, Anthony, 02/02/2017
- Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version), Ming Liu (ming AT bnl.gov), 02/02/2017
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] [Sphenix-l] MAPS-based Vertex Detector (MVTX) pre-proposal - v1.5 (near final version),
Frawley, Anthony, 02/02/2017
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