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- From: Hideki Okawa <Hideki.Okawa AT cern.ch>
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- Subject: [Sphenix-maps-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting
- Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:12:06 +0000
Heavy Flavor Topical Group Meeting (2021/6/15)
Introduction - Jin
Congratulations to Yasser, Cameron, Xuan and Sanghoon
for the RHIC/AGS Merit Awards and Zhaozhong for the
poster award!
Hideki: We'll need b/c-filtered jet samples as well, not just
for the machine learning b-tagger, but also for the
substructure and D-jet correlation studies.
Jin: Indeed. Will update the intro slides.
HF tools - Cameron
p.5
Jin: Are these with all 50M events?
Cameron: Yes.
Jin: Statistics seems low. Better to double check.
Zhaozhong: B+->D0(->K+ pi-) pi+ is a statistically challenging
channel. B_s is even lower. By the way, are J/psi, psi(2s) from
the bbbar sample?
Cameron: Yes.
p.6
Wei: The asymmetry is not seen in other peaks. Is it due to the
eta cut?
Cameron: No eta cut applied. B+ suffers from statistics. For J/psi,
it could be due to the photon radiation.
Wei: In principle, they should have the same asymmetry.
Jin: Can we cut triple daughter events?
Cameron: It is not straightforward.
p.7
Jin: Better to double-check by applying |eta|<0.8, not just on
track 1, but also track 2.
(Updates from Cameron sent to the mailing list after the meeting)
Xin: How is the precision of D0 mass position in the central region?
Cameron: I was planning to have a look, but not yet.
Jin: How was the performance in the previous workfest, where we had
no mismatch in the magnetic field?
Cameron: The simulation was simplified back then, so I am not sure
how reliable it would be to compare.
Muon ID w/ machine learning - Ming
p.1
Jin: Better to keep in mind the contributions from noise in the EMCal
and HCal.
p.11
Jin: Lots of hadrons from the background are not considered here yet.
Ming: I need the MB sample.
p.12
Hideki: What does "Early Stopping" mean here?
Ming: It stops the training with a small set of train samples when the
performance begins to saturate.
Jin, Cameron, Zhaozhong: These functionalities (Random Forest, Boosted
Trees, etc.) exist in TMVA.
Cameron: I will send you some code.
Jin: Pytorch also has these functionalities implemented.
Jin: Are 50~100M MB events sufficient?
Ming: 100M should be decent.
Cameron: We should also be careful with the over-training.
Jin: For the electrons, it is better to also check the dE and dphi with the
3x3 clusters.
Hideki: How is the cluster energy computed? Any cut on the noise?
Jin: Basic noise and shape cuts are applied.
Xin: What is the granularity of the HCal and EMCal?
Jin: 0.1x0.1 for HCal, 0.025x0.025 for EMCal. 2x2 containes the shower
in HCal and 3x3 for the EM shower.
Xin: How is the occupancy?
Jin: Ming's plots are with pp. HCal should be quite overwhelmed in AuAu.
MDC1 vertexing performance - Dan
p.3
Jin: Is this the number of reconstructed or truth tracks?
Dan: Reco matched to the truth tracks from the PV.
Xin: Truth hits or reco hits?
Dan: Reco hits.
Xin: It would be better to make the x-axis in the log scale to see
the low pt part in detail.
Hideki: Why are the errors significantly different between the x and z
resolution for Num. Tracks ~15-20?
Dan: I need to check. The plots are made with TProfile.
Jin: You should check the histograms in 1D. For the resolution, you can
use TH2::FitProfileY().
Hideki: Values in TProfile can visibly shift due to tails. You should check
whether this is happening or not.
Xin: What is the eta cut?
Dan: |eta|<1.1
Jin: The vertex resolution looks bad. It seems that the tail effect is
sizable.
Xin: What is the beam width?
Jin: 100 microns
Xin: What about pileup?
Jin: Not considered in these samples.
Xin: We should consider the 2D decay length instead of 3D. The z
component may not work.
Jin: Which sample are you using?
Dan: Inclusive MB. I will also have a look at the HF samples.
Jin: Do you apply a qhat cut?
Dan: I don't know actually. Will check.
Jin: Two checks to be done: (1) check the 1D histogram for # of tracks~5,
(2) pick a few events and compare the truth and reco. There can be
mis-identification of the truth vertices. Jin: Where are the RAVE vertexing plots?
Dan: I don't have the ones with MDC1 yet.
Jin: What about the ones with your own Pythia samples?
Dan: I have those plots and will add them to the slides after the meeting.
(Slides are now updated on the indico)
- [Sphenix-maps-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting, Hideki Okawa, 06/15/2021
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