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  • Subject: [Sphenix-maps-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 16:12:06 +0000

Heavy Flavor Topical Group Meeting (2021/6/15)


Introduction - Jin

Congratulations to Yasser, Cameron, Xuan and Sanghoon
for the RHIC/AGS Merit Awards and Zhaozhong for the
poster award!

Hideki: We'll need b/c-filtered jet samples as well, not just
   for the machine learning b-tagger, but also for the
   substructure and D-jet correlation studies.
Jin: Indeed. Will update the intro slides.


HF tools - Cameron

p.5
Jin: Are these with all 50M events?
Cameron: Yes.
Jin: Statistics seems low. Better to double check.
Zhaozhong: B+->D0(->K+ pi-) pi+ is a statistically challenging
   channel. B_s is even lower. By the way, are J/psi, psi(2s) from
   the bbbar sample?
Cameron: Yes.

p.6
Wei: The asymmetry is not seen in other peaks. Is it due to the
   eta cut?
Cameron: No eta cut applied. B+ suffers from statistics. For J/psi,
   it could be due to the photon radiation.
Wei: In principle, they should have the same asymmetry.
Jin: Can we cut triple daughter events?
Cameron: It is not straightforward.

p.7
Jin: Better to double-check by applying |eta|<0.8, not just on
   track 1, but also track 2.
(Updates from Cameron sent to the mailing list after the meeting)

Xin: How is the precision of D0 mass position in the central region?
Cameron: I was planning to have a look, but not yet.

Jin: How was the performance in the previous workfest, where we had
   no mismatch in the magnetic field?
Cameron: The simulation was simplified back then, so I am not sure
  how reliable it would be to compare.


Muon ID w/ machine learning - Ming

p.1
Jin: Better to keep in mind the contributions from noise in the EMCal
   and HCal.

p.11
Jin: Lots of hadrons from the background are not considered here yet.
Ming: I need the MB sample.

p.12
Hideki: What does "Early Stopping" mean here?
Ming: It stops the training with a small set of train samples when the
   performance begins to saturate.

Jin, Cameron, Zhaozhong: These functionalities (Random Forest, Boosted
Trees, etc.) exist in TMVA.
Cameron: I will send you some code.
Jin: Pytorch also has these functionalities implemented.

Jin: Are 50~100M MB events sufficient?
Ming: 100M should be decent.
Cameron: We should also be careful with the over-training.

Jin: For the electrons, it is better to also check the dE and dphi with the
   3x3 clusters.
Hideki: How is the cluster energy computed? Any cut on the noise?
Jin: Basic noise and shape cuts are applied.

Xin: What is the granularity of the HCal and EMCal?
Jin: 0.1x0.1 for HCal, 0.025x0.025 for EMCal. 2x2 containes the shower
in HCal and 3x3 for the EM shower.

Xin: How is the occupancy?
Jin: Ming's plots are with pp. HCal should be quite overwhelmed in AuAu.


MDC1 vertexing performance - Dan

p.3
Jin: Is this the number of reconstructed or truth tracks?
Dan: Reco matched to the truth tracks from the PV.

Xin: Truth hits or reco hits?
Dan: Reco hits.

Xin: It would be better to make the x-axis in the log scale to see
   the low pt part in detail.

Hideki: Why are the errors significantly different between the x and z
   resolution for Num. Tracks ~15-20?
Dan: I need to check. The plots are made with TProfile.
Jin: You should check the histograms in 1D. For the resolution, you can
   use TH2::FitProfileY().
Hideki: Values in TProfile can visibly shift due to tails. You should check
   whether this is happening or not.

Xin: What is the eta cut?
Dan: |eta|<1.1
Jin: The vertex resolution looks bad. It seems that the tail effect is
   sizable.
Xin: What is the beam width?
Jin: 100 microns
Xin: What about pileup?
Jin: Not considered in these samples.
Xin: We should consider the 2D decay length instead of 3D. The z
   component may not work.

Jin: Which sample are you using?
Dan: Inclusive MB. I will also have a look at the HF samples.
Jin: Do you apply a qhat cut?
Dan: I don't know actually. Will check.

Jin: Two checks to be done: (1) check the 1D histogram for # of tracks~5,
   (2) pick a few events and compare the truth and reco. There can be
   mis-identification of the truth vertices.

Jin: Where are the RAVE vertexing plots?
Dan: I don't have the ones with MDC1 yet.
Jin: What about the ones with your own Pythia samples?
Dan: I have those plots and will add them to the slides after the meeting.
   (Slides are now updated on the indico)



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