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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern
- From: Yasser Corrales Morales <ycorrale AT cern.ch>
- To: sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern
- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 10:11:17 -0700
Hi,
BUSY and BUSY VIOLATION are known features of ALPIDE chips which are asserted due to long readout time, from high occupancy or short trigger frame rates, during normal readout operation of the ALPIDE chip depending of the chip readout configuration (continuous or trigger mode, please note this is internal chip configuration and different from the detector readout mode). BUSY VIOLATION will mask or skip a single trigger frame but will not crash the RU DATAPATH readout.
This situation are different from beam background events when the time readout frame are longer then the set event timeout and the datapath is disable for the rest of the run.
Cheers,
Yasser.
Thank you Ed, good to see the detailed analysis there. The cause of the “busy violation” is indeed from the same origin, too many hits to readout in time.
Cheers,
Ming
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From: Ed O'Brien <eobrien AT bnl.gov>
Date: Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 9:08 AM
To: Jo Schambach <schambachjj AT ornl.gov>, SPHENIX MVTX <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "Ming Liu (BNL)" <ming AT bnl.gov>
Cc: John Haggerty <haggerty AT bnl.gov>, Kin Yip <kinyip AT bnl.gov>, Martin Purschke <purschke AT bnl.gov>
Subject: Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern
Hi Jo and Ming,
I am reviewing the ALICE FOCAL TDR and see that their EM section
of the FOCAL uses MAPS ALPIDE pixels sensors for readout, interleaved
with W plates. The TDR has a long description of how they will
deal with what they call "BUSY violations" in the ALPIDE readout from
high multiplicity events. As far as I can tell this is the identical
data-hang situation that we are experiencing with the MVTX.
I have posted the ALICE FOCAL TDR at the top of the Indico page for
today's MVTX electronics meeting:
https://indico.bnl.gov/event/22140/
Perhaps the MVTX electronics experts already know all of this information
or even contributed to this section of the TDR, but if one looks at
p. 24-38 you can read a detailed description of how ALICE plans to
deal with the BUSY-violations in their future FOCAL.
I find it interesting reading. Thanks.
Ed
On 1/31/24 8:59 AM, Schambach, Jo via sPHENIX-MAPS-l wrote:
What: Weekly MVTX Electronics meeting
When: 1 February 2024, 13:-00 EST
Indico: https://indico.bnl.gov/event/22140/
Zoom: https://bnl.zoomgov.com/j/1603202671?pwd=Qng1QjhyWVV0YTA0VXV3dzNOWHQyUT09
I will be in a workshop tomorrow all day, so I won’t be able to host this myself, but provided the indico and zoom coordinates here for the meeting
Joachim Schambach
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
PO Box 2008
Bldg. 6000, MS 6368, Rm 205-C
Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6368
Phone: (865) 341-0694
Email: schambachjj AT ornl.gov
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern,
Edward O'Brien, 02/01/2024
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern,
Liu, Ming Xiong, 02/01/2024
- Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern, Yasser Corrales Morales, 02/01/2024
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Re: [Sphenix-maps-l] next MVTX Electronics meeting tomorrow 2/1 at 1pm Eastern,
Liu, Ming Xiong, 02/01/2024
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