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[Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] heavy flavor topical group meeting, Wed Apr 12, 2-4 PM EST, @ 2-219
- From: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] heavy flavor topical group meeting, Wed Apr 12, 2-4 PM EST, @ 2-219
- Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2017 05:33:53 +0000
Also available on agenda: https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3018
Announcements - Xin, Jin
As MVTX proposal and reviews being planned in the coming months, we plan to make the HF topical group meeting regular, about once a month. While regular simulation tasks is updated in the simulation meetings, we will use the topical group meetings to provide a platform to discuss the HF physics @ sPHENIX and status in review preparation.
Plans updated on wiki: https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/Heavy_Flavor_Topical_Group#Planning
Next TG meeting about one month later. Will use doodle to select for new monthly time.
Project news - Ming Liu
Slide 2: Now MVTX detector is a standalone project from sPHENIX that enables the sPHENIX HF program Ming: Nevertheless, our intention is to install MVTX on day-one of sPHENIX
Slide 4: lots of update on MVTX Readout R&D, C&S, and integration with rest of tracker system
Slide 5: Updated key dates:
· Aug/Sept: Updated proposal after director's review
Status of Physics Case Preparation - Xin, Jin
Slide 2-3: generic physics and review of D-meson world data Slide 4: updated physics plot time lines
Jin: sPHENIX SP is iterating updating with CAD on luminosity projections. We should follow the final projection to update uncertainties in the end Jin: we hope also incorporate correlation measurements (d-b-jets and Non-prompt-D-b-jet) with model curves for the proposal too.
Slide 5-6: task list and status from last meeting.
Given high time pressure, volunteers are welcomed. Also we have a wish list of studies that looking for volunteers too : https://wiki.bnl.gov/sPHENIX/index.php/Heavy_Flavor_Topical_Group#Planning
Comparison of MVTX projections with Models - Cesar da Silva
Summary: extracted b-jet cross section and production channel to be used by Ivan’s group for b-jet RAA predictions @ sPHENIX
Additional request: it will be great to also add curves for di-b-jet projections, B-meson-b-jet and Non-prompt-D-meson-b-jet projections.
Slide 4: simulation output Jin: We expect lower fraction of B (10% or so) from gluon splitting. Is the “gluon”- labelled events also include flavor excitation? Cesar: Yes. And will work with Ivan’s group on using consistent definition for the massive-gluon channel in Ivan's calculation.
Xin: can we go to lower pT than 15 GeV/c? Cesar/Jin: probably the current simulation from Darren used 10 GeV q^hat in pythia8, which we should avoid lower the observed jet pT to be close to 10 GeV/c.
Open-b x-section requirement- Tony Frawley
Summary: new Industrial standard for Upsilon comparison is open HF x-section instead of p+p, which avoids problems of nPDF uncertainties. We should consider add open b-x-sec measurement to sPHENIX. Expect total error of 10%.
Tony: Considering B->J/Psi down to pT below 1GeV/c, require additional electron ID. Xin: STAR achieved dE/dx ~7% in TPC. For non-prompt-D0 -> piK, it is challenging to go to low pT (<2GeV) without PID.
Xin: LBNL also plans to look into exclusive B-channel to help address full x-section.
Updated B-meson projection - Xiaolong Chen
Summary: rerun D-meson simulation for updated tracking macros and centrality ranges. Projection for R_AA and v2 updated.
Xiaolong: should we rerun full embedded Geant4 simulation with ladder geometry? Jin/Tony: we probably want to wait until the new pattern recognition software to be ready. Haiwang: testing the new Kalman-based patter recognition software + ladder geometry. Performance similar to ideal pattern recognition.
Jin: with 2GeV/c non-prompt-D pT cut, what is the corresponding x-section for the parent B-meson? Xiaolong/Xin: FONNL show non-prompt-D with pT>1 GeV -> 75% total cross section. pT>2GeV/c cut leads to 1/3 of cross section. After Au_Au suppression, it may be even smaller. Very hard to constraint to 10% level with a non-prompt-D pT>2GeV/c cut.
Non-prompt-D b-jet correlations - Xuan Li
Summary: establishing non-prompt-D and b-jet correlation for sPHENIX
Xin: how the pi + K pairs were selected and simulated? Xuan: Pythia8 truth simulation with truth tracing to a D-meson
Xin: What was the Pythia8 setting? Xuan: hard QCD, inclusive b-production
Xin: angular correlation observables will be very interesting too. Collision energy loss will leads to a widen \Delta Phi Xuan : good point!
Plan: Communicate off line on using LBNL fast simulation package for D-background estimation. Verify fast simulation package with full Geant4 simulation in case of correlated background.
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Jin HUANG
Associate Physicist Brookhaven National Laboratory Physics Department, Bldg 510 C Upton, NY 11973-5000
Office: 631-344-5898 Cell: 757-604-9946 ______________________________
> -----Original Message----- > From: sPHENIX-HF-jets-l [mailto:sphenix-hf-jets-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On > Behalf Of Huang, Jin > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 2:49 PM > To: sphenix-hf-jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov; sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps- > l AT lists.bnl.gov> > Cc: sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov > Subject: [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [reminder] heavy flavor topical group meeting, > Wed Apr 12, 2-4 PM EST, @ 2-219 > > Hello everyone, > > This is reminder to heavy flavor topical group meeting, Wed Apr 12, 2-4 PM > EST, @ 2-219. > > In this meeting, we will get updates on the MVTX project, discuss physics case > preparation, and topical updates on theory curves, open-b x-section, and > projections on inclusive B-meson and B-meson-b-jet correlations. > > The agenda page is at > https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3018 , for which the > common modification password is "1008" > * For residents at BNL, we will meet at the 2-219 conference room if > not closed for snow > * To join the Meeting via phone bridge: > https://bluejeans.com/891109017 > * To join via Phone: > 1) Dial: > +1.408.740.7256 > +1.888.240.2560(US Toll Free) > +1.408.317.9253(Alternate number) > (see all numbers - http://bluejeans.com/numbers) > 2) Enter Conference ID: 891109017 > > Looking forward to talking to you tomorrow. > > > Cheers, > > Xin, Jin, Ming > > ______________________________ > > Jin HUANG > > Associate Physicist > Brookhaven National Laboratory > Physics Department, Bldg 510 C > Upton, NY 11973-5000 > > Office: 631-344-5898 > Cell: 757-604-9946 > ______________________________ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sPHENIX-HF-jets-l > > [mailto:sphenix-hf-jets-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On Behalf Of Huang, > > Jin > > Sent: Monday, April 3, 2017 10:33 AM > > To: sphenix-hf-jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov; sphenix-maps-l <sphenix-maps- > > l AT lists.bnl.gov> > > Cc: sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov > > Subject: [Sphenix-hf-jets-l] [poll] heavy flaor topical group meeting > > > > Hello everyone > > > > Following the last brain storming meeting, we are organizing a HF-jet > > topical group meeting in the next week or so, with the aims of reviewing > our status. > > Please indicate your availability in the following doodle poll before > > EOB of > > Wed: > > > > http://doodle.com/poll/sbrifsvxyz5v9f4p > > > > The tentative agenda is > > * MVTX project status - Ming > > * Review/discussion of scientific case for MVTX - Xin/Jin > > * Open b-production cross section in Au+Au for the Upsilon program - > > jointly with Tony/Mariza > > * Topical summaries: > > ** Model update for inclusive R_AA and correlations - Cesar > > ** Non-prompt-D update - Xiaolong > > ** Non-prompt-D-b-jet correlation - Xuan > > ** di-b-jet correlation - Darren / Haiwang We plan for two hours total. > > Suggestions are welcomed. > > > > As the consortium prepare for the MVTX proposal, we also plan to have > > the TG meeting about once a month in the future and invite talks from > > external speakers. Looking forward to talking to you soon. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Xin, Jin, Ming > > > > > > ______________________________ > > > > Jin HUANG > > > > Associate Physicist > > Brookhaven National Laboratory > > Physics Department, Bldg 510 C > > Upton, NY 11973-5000 > > > > Office: 631-344-5898 > > Cell: 757-604-9946 > > ______________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sPHENIX-HF-jets-l mailing list > > sPHENIX-HF-jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov > > https://lists.bnl.gov/mailman/listinfo/sphenix-hf-jets-l > _______________________________________________ > sPHENIX-HF-jets-l mailing list |
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