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[Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] HF Topical Group Meeting on August 18 Friday -12-2pm @ Bluejeans/718416846, BNL/2-219
- From: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>
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- Subject: [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] HF Topical Group Meeting on August 18 Friday -12-2pm @ Bluejeans/718416846, BNL/2-219
- Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2017 21:16:51 +0000
Thanks for every one participated in the meeting. Following is the minutes, which is also available on the agenda page: https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3472
Project update - Ming Liu
Positive review. Encourage submission of full proposal. Full report to be released by co-SP soon. Specific recommendation in slides and discussed at the last topic of this meeting.
Timeline [very tentative]: · Update pre-proposal in two months from now · ALD communicate with DOE, Oct/Nov · Full proposal ready for submission in Dec 2017 · MVTX detector support in FY18
Tracking software update - Haiwang
Current software status: • Ready to run • Good single track efficiency • Resonable MVTX association rate • Central Hijing embedding ~ 25 min/event • in which Tracking alone ~ 5 - 10 min/event
Slide 4: checking DCA distribution Haiwang: some HF jet sample are included in the track sample in DCA distribution plotting.
TODOs: · Preliminary test for HF tagging with High DCA method shows comparable results with previous tracking with cylindrical silicon geometry · Needs to understand the DCA reconstruction with displaced tracks · Hijing embedding simulation is next step
Action Item [Haiwang, Sanghoon]: check vertex reconstruction performance in pro.3 for pp and HIJING events, and update to the list.
Pile up simulation in MVTX - Sanghoon Lim
Time based pileup simulation hasn’t been fully implemented yet. Simple embedding style simulation for a quick look
Jin: Where 10 us comes from? Sanghoon/Ming: we expect window of 4-10 us. 10 is a conservative choice of max pile up
Slide 3: Jin: how TPC/INTT pile up simulated? Sanghoon: no pile up assumed in this study. Produce lower limit of pile up with MVTX pile up only.
Slide 5:
Xuan: concern pile up in TPC make TPC not optical detector for use in seeding Jin: suggest a topic for tracking group to tune when full pile up is ready to run.
V2 for b-jets: Jin Huang
Following suggestion from the review, adding projections for b-jet v2
Slide 4: Xin: why there seems discrepancy in ALICE/ATLAS v2? Jin: not sure. Energy scale difference between charge-jet and calo-jet?
Discussion on event plain resolution: Scenarios for two event plane resolution was assumed: · event plane with |eta|<1: Res = 0.7, but involve systematics of autocorrelations. · event plane with 3<|eta|<4: Res = 0.4, which is lower in resolution based on PHENIX BBC data Suggestions on the choice of event plane resolution will be welcomed.
HF-jet analysis plan: ·
Completing addressing comments of 1st analysis note:
· Recommendation from director’s review (see last part) ·
Highlights from our TODO list on wiki:
o Update b-jet tagging simulation with laddered detector model and + calorimetry – Haiwang, Sanghoon o Fast simulation to allow large fake jet simulation – Help needed o di-b-jet purity/efficiency in Geant4 – Darren, Haiwang o Completing purity estimation for the B-meson-b-jet correlation – Xuan o New topics: e.g. charmed jets
General planning
Recommendations from MVTX director’s review that is directly related to the topical group
· The collaboration is encouraged to solicit multiple theory predictions in the range where new measurements can be made with sPHENIX, including error bars demonstrating how the MVTX can clarify the theoretical uncertainties. Calculation should be done on realistic hydro codes and tuned to soft spectra. · Cesar: request Ivan's group to produce uncertainty and light jet · Xin/Jin: contacting further theory groups · Refine 3 key physics plots, same style etc. These are essential components of the Science Case for the MVTX project.
· Continue improve simulations. Demonstrate the degree to which sPHENIX(w/ MVTX) can resolve the situation at the LHC where high p_T and heavy flavor R_AA overlaps each other.
Tracking software to be used for coming MVYX proposal studies - pro.3
Xin/Jin: consider coming timeline of proposals, we plan to use the build for the Aug director’s review, which is tagged as pro.3: · Use the Pro.3 tag for both source code git repositories and in RCF build.
· This tag Include Kalman-filter based track finding and ladderized tracker simulation
Solicitation production sample needed
Currently on list are: · p+p jetty events · Central HIJING background - produced by Chris · MB HIJING background · Single tracks embedded in HIJING: 25k HIJING x 30 single track per event, 1-30 GeV/c (to be confirmed) Please add you request too.
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Jin HUANG
Associate Physicist Brookhaven National Laboratory Physics Department, Bldg 510 C Upton, NY 11973-5000
Office: 631-344-5898 Cell: 757-604-9946 ______________________________
From: Huang, Jin
Hi, Everyone
This is a reminder for HF Topical Group Meeting on August 18 Friday -12-2pm. We will discuss response from the MVTX director’s review and the stage studies.
· Here is agenda for the meeting: https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3472 · For remote connection, please use Bluejeans/718416846. · For BNL attendance, we please come to conference room 2-219.
Cheers
Xin & Jin
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Jin HUANG
Associate Physicist Brookhaven National Laboratory Physics Department, Bldg 510 C Upton, NY 11973-5000
Office: 631-344-5898 Cell: 757-604-9946 ______________________________
From: sPHENIX-HF-jets-l [mailto:sphenix-hf-jets-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov]
On Behalf Of Xin Dong
Dear All,
We will have our next HF topical group meeting this Friday at 12pm. Please find the Bluejeans joining information and the proposed meeting agenda in the following indico page.
Hope to talk to you all on Friday. Thanks
Jin and Xin
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- [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] HF Topical Group Meeting on August 18 Friday -12-2pm @ Bluejeans/718416846, BNL/2-219, Huang, Jin, 08/19/2017
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