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Re: [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting
- From: Murad Sarsour <murad.sarsour AT gmail.com>
- To: Hideki Okawa <Hideki.Okawa AT cern.ch>
- Cc: "sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-maps-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-hf-jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-hf-jets-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting
- Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:19:52 -0400
Hi Deepali,
Sorry! In their email it says 6/15 but it was a mistake - it was yesterday. Anyway, look up introductory slides which have lots of links and detailed information on how to proceed.
Regards,
Murad
On Jun 15, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Hideki Okawa <Hideki.Okawa AT cern.ch> wrote:_______________________________________________Heavy Flavor Topical Group Meeting (2021/6/15)
Introduction - JinCongratulations to Yasser, Cameron, Xuan and Sanghoonfor the RHIC/AGS Merit Awards and Zhaozhong for theposter award!Hideki: We'll need b/c-filtered jet samples as well, not justfor the machine learning b-tagger, but also for thesubstructure and D-jet correlation studies.Jin: Indeed. Will update the intro slides.HF tools - Cameronp.5Jin: Are these with all 50M events?Cameron: Yes.Jin: Statistics seems low. Better to double check.Zhaozhong: B+->D0(->K+ pi-) pi+ is a statistically challengingchannel. B_s is even lower. By the way, are J/psi, psi(2s) fromthe bbbar sample?Cameron: Yes.p.6Wei: The asymmetry is not seen in other peaks. Is it due to theeta cut?Cameron: No eta cut applied. B+ suffers from statistics. For J/psi,it could be due to the photon radiation.Wei: In principle, they should have the same asymmetry.Jin: Can we cut triple daughter events?Cameron: It is not straightforward.p.7Jin: Better to double-check by applying |eta|<0.8, not just ontrack 1, but also track 2.(Updates from Cameron sent to the mailing list after the meeting)Xin: How is the precision of D0 mass position in the central region?Cameron: I was planning to have a look, but not yet.Jin: How was the performance in the previous workfest, where we hadno mismatch in the magnetic field?Cameron: The simulation was simplified back then, so I am not surehow reliable it would be to compare.Muon ID w/ machine learning - Mingp.1Jin: Better to keep in mind the contributions from noise in the EMCaland HCal.p.11Jin: Lots of hadrons from the background are not considered here yet.Ming: I need the MB sample.p.12Hideki: What does "Early Stopping" mean here?Ming: It stops the training with a small set of train samples when theperformance begins to saturate.Jin, Cameron, Zhaozhong: These functionalities (Random Forest, BoostedTrees, etc.) exist in TMVA.Cameron: I will send you some code.Jin: Pytorch also has these functionalities implemented.Jin: Are 50~100M MB events sufficient?Ming: 100M should be decent.Cameron: We should also be careful with the over-training.Jin: For the electrons, it is better to also check the dE and dphi with the3x3 clusters.Hideki: How is the cluster energy computed? Any cut on the noise?Jin: Basic noise and shape cuts are applied.Xin: What is the granularity of the HCal and EMCal?Jin: 0.1x0.1 for HCal, 0.025x0.025 for EMCal. 2x2 containes the showerin HCal and 3x3 for the EM shower.Xin: How is the occupancy?Jin: Ming's plots are with pp. HCal should be quite overwhelmed in AuAu.MDC1 vertexing performance - Danp.3Jin: Is this the number of reconstructed or truth tracks?Dan: Reco matched to the truth tracks from the PV.Xin: Truth hits or reco hits?Dan: Reco hits.Xin: It would be better to make the x-axis in the log scale to seethe low pt part in detail.Hideki: Why are the errors significantly different between the x and zresolution for Num. Tracks ~15-20?Dan: I need to check. The plots are made with TProfile.Jin: You should check the histograms in 1D. For the resolution, you canuse TH2::FitProfileY().Hideki: Values in TProfile can visibly shift due to tails. You should checkwhether this is happening or not.Xin: What is the eta cut?Dan: |eta|<1.1Jin: The vertex resolution looks bad. It seems that the tail effect issizable.Xin: What is the beam width?Jin: 100 micronsXin: What about pileup?Jin: Not considered in these samples.Xin: We should consider the 2D decay length instead of 3D. The zcomponent may not work.Jin: Which sample are you using?Dan: Inclusive MB. I will also have a look at the HF samples.Jin: Do you apply a qhat cut?Dan: I don't know actually. Will check.Jin: Two checks to be done: (1) check the 1D histogram for # of tracks~5,(2) pick a few events and compare the truth and reco. There can bemis-identification of the truth vertices.Jin: Where are the RAVE vertexing plots?Dan: I don't have the ones with MDC1 yet.Jin: What about the ones with your own Pythia samples?Dan: I have those plots and will add them to the slides after the meeting.(Slides are now updated on the indico)
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[Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting,
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Re: [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting,
Murad Sarsour, 06/15/2021
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Re: [Sphenix-physics-l] [minutes] bi-weekly Heavy Flavor Topical Group meeting,
Murad Sarsour, 06/15/2021
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