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[[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Fwd: Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode
- From: Gregory Ottino <gottino AT lbl.gov>
- To: sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov
- Subject: [[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Fwd: Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode
- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:36:03 -0700
Hi all,
I wanted to reply to Jamie's message with a few slides that I hope are useful. I went ahead and simulated 1M ccbar events to look at the efficiencies
of D0 and LambdaC
reco taking into account the constraints from MVTX triggered readout presented in Jamie's email from Oct 20th. I simulated 1M pythia pp -> ccbar events and looked at the acceptance effect on the charm hadron reconstruction.
Best,
Greg
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From: Jamie Nagle <jamie.nagle AT colorado.edu>
Date: Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 12:15 PM
Subject: [[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode
To: <sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
From: Jamie Nagle <jamie.nagle AT colorado.edu>
Date: Sun, Oct 20, 2024 at 12:15 PM
Subject: [[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode
To: <sphenix-physics-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Hello All,
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When we have been taking AuAu data with the MVTX in triggered mode, the default trigger latency is about 3.7 microseconds. The auto-recoveries are substantially reduced relative to streaming mode depending on the DAQ rate. There is a concern that this triggered mode might be clipping the signal from high-charge-deposit signals - which might predominantly be from lower momentum kaons and protons. There are some initial indicators that in this triggered mode, the MVTX hits are being recorded from most pions (which is a good sign). See the slides below that were shown at a meeting with C-AD last week.
Thus, I have a physics question, if in triggered mode with this latency the hits were lost for the range on the dEdx figure > 150 (arbitrarily chosen), then sPHENIX might have lower efficiency for kaons with p < 0.4 GeV (total momentum) and protons with p < 0.7 GeV (total momentum). For the open heavy flavor program (D0, D_s, Lambda_c) what would be the impact on the acceptance as a function of eta and pT for reconstruction of these decays? A first look might be useful just from PYTHIA (without GEANT) and calculate with nominal sPHENIX acceptance and then with these cuts.
As an aside, sPHENIX was running last night with AuAu 111x111 bunches at 1 mrad with a DAQ rate of 1.5 kHz. The MVTX was in triggered mode with the 3.7 microsecond latency and the number of auto-recoveries was very small -- see below (almost all green, and not red). This running last night represents the best sPHENIX AuAu sample at higher luminosity for checking the triggered mode -- see the run list below. This all means we still need significant reduction in backgrounds (factor of 10) from C-AD to run at 10-15 kHz next year, but triggered versus streaming gives us a big part of the step towards running. That is why the question above is important.
Sincerely,
Jamie
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[[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode,
Jamie Nagle, 10/20/2024
- Re: [[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode, Jakub Kvapil, 10/20/2024
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[[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Fwd: Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode,
Gregory Ottino, 10/25/2024
- Re: [[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Fwd: Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode, Cameron Thomas Dean, 10/28/2024
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[[Sphenix-physics-l] ] Fwd: Open Heavy Flavor question and MVTX triggered/streaming mode,
Gregory Ottino, 10/25/2024
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