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  • From: "Huang, Jin" <jhuang AT bnl.gov>
  • To: "Kurt.Hill AT colorado.edu" <Kurt.Hill AT colorado.edu>, "sphenix-software-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-software-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Sphenix-software-l] Looking into PHENIX clustering in sPHENIX
  • Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 01:46:04 +0000

Hi, Kurt

Thanks for continuing the efforts on the particle flow algorithm.

> Even at substantial energy, the purely electromagnetic showers from the
> single electrons have a significant chance to produce a prob value of near
> 0. Is this expected?

Interesting. Sasha may better comment on it.

Meanwhile, there is a non-negligible chance for the electrons to produce a
hard radiative photon in the tracking detectors prior to indenting the EMCal.
Then it can be pulled away from the photon by the magnetic field and produce
two cluster or a prolonged cluster, depending on how much is the magnetic
pull. The latter case could make the electron shower non-standard and low
prob.


> ; I assume the default energy scale given to the EMC is calibrated to
> electromagnetic showers.

Correct.


> If so, is the EMC hadronic energy scale known, or should I calculate it?
> Any advice here would be appreciated.

User has to define and apply it.

It depends on the shower development (MIP through or initiate a shower) and
energy (lower and higher energy has different scale). In the leading order,
one may choose a constant scale factor to convert the EM-shower energy scale
to hadronic energy scale, and then deal with the dependencies in the next
order corrections.

Songkyo may talk about that tomorrow in the simulation meeting.


> I plan to call into the simulations meeting tomorrow, so we could chat
> about it then if there is time.

Sounds great. Would you like to be added to the agenda?


Cheers

Jin


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From: sPHENIX-software-l [mailto:sphenix-software-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov] On
Behalf Of Kurt Keys Hill
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2017 7:28 PM
To: sphenix-software-l AT lists.bnl.gov
Subject: [Sphenix-software-l] Looking into PHENIX clustering in sPHENIX

Hi All,

The Colorado group is interested in particle flow jet reconstruction in
sPHENIX. As a first step, we would like to separate electromagnetic from
hadronic EMCal clusters within the jet and apply the appropriate energy scale
to each type. We plan to eventually apply a track-cluster replacement scheme
as a next step.

Moving toward EMCal cluster identification, I have merged Sasha's pull
request into a local copy of g4cemc. I ran single pions and electrons through
an otherwise default sPHENIX and plotted the chi2 and prob distributions in
four different EMC cluster energy selections (see attached slides). In the
lowest energy (0-1 GeV) the charged pion deposits MI energy which seem to
look a lot like low energy EM showers. At higher energy, there seems to be
fairly good separation between the EM and hadronic showers, and at the
highest energies the pi0 curve separates from the electrons - presumably as
the two photon showers merge.

Even at substantial energy, the purely electromagnetic showers from the
single electrons have a significant chance to produce a prob value of near 0.
Is this expected? 

As an aside, I would like to understand the current applied calorimeter
calibrations better. I am using the calibrated calorimeter towers and
clusters; I assume the default energy scale given to the EMC is calibrated to
electromagnetic showers. If so, is the EMC hadronic energy scale known, or
should I calculate it? Any advice here would be appreciated.

I plan to call into the simulations meeting tomorrow, so we could chat about
it then if there is time.

Thanks,
Kurt




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