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Re: [Sphenix-tracking-l] [Sphenix-software-l] [minutes] sPHENIX simulation meetings, Tue Aug 18th 1-3PM @ 2-160
- From: "Frawley, Anthony" <afrawley AT fsu.edu>
- To: Jamie Nagle <jamie.nagle AT colorado.edu>, "sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-software-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-software-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, "sphenix-tracking-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <sphenix-tracking-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Sphenix-tracking-l] [Sphenix-software-l] [minutes] sPHENIX simulation meetings, Tue Aug 18th 1-3PM @ 2-160
- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:11:58 +0000
Regarding the level of realism for the inner pixels, Mike added a module "PHG4SvtxDeadArea" that makes it possible to randomly kill a certain percentage of hits in each layer. If this module is not given any input, it defaults to a perfect detector. From "github/simulation/macros/macros/g4simulation/G4_Svtx.C" the present default settings are:
// defaults to 1.0 (fully active)
PHG4SvtxDeadArea* deadarea = new PHG4SvtxDeadArea();
deadarea->Verbosity(verbosity);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(0,0.90);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(1,0.90);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(2,0.98);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(3,0.98);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(4,0.98);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(5,0.98);
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(6,0.98);
//if(silicon_config_ITS_pixels)
// deadarea->set_hit_efficiency(7,0.98);
se->registerSubsystem( deadarea );
So a presently supported option is to randomly kill a specified fraction of the hits in each layer.
Are you thinking in terms of something more realistic than perfect cylinder layers with randomly killed fraction of hits? At the moment, the inner pixels are in the simulation as cylinder cell layers. Implementing the pixels as ladders and assigning a fixed dead map is certainly possible. But it would be a nontrivial amount of work. Doing it for the pCDR would likely prevent other things from being done.
On the time scale of the pCDR, I think the best use of our time would be to stick with the cylinder cell pixels, decide on a number for the dead fraction in each layer, and do some studies with that. I have not tried to assess the impact on the Upsilon measurement of dead areas in the pixels, for example. Once the tracking code is re-optimized, that would be pretty quick to do, and I think would answer the biggest questions.
Implementing a ladder model of the pixels could be done on a slightly longer time scale.
Cheers
Tony
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Subject: Re: [Sphenix-software-l] [minutes] sPHENIX simulation meetings, Tue Aug 18th 1-3PM @ 2-160
It might be good to put this kind of information together in a Technical Note that can be referenced.
Also available on agenda: https://indico.bnl.gov/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=1187
Tony - SVX tracking option update
Page 4 -
Mike: question on the thickness for ITS thickness, is that 0.3% or 0.6%?
Tony: need to double check
Action Item [Tony]: double check and confirm ITS thickness
Page 5:
Jin: is there liquid cooling for FPHX design?
Tony: no, gas cooled.
Summary:
Jin: action item from last meeting, certify the implementation of cylinder SVX
Tony: mass resolution went to ~104 MeV.
Mike: ~5-10% track has bogus cluster. Reco eff. Is very high. May need to update quality cuts. Problem is above G4Hit level, no need to hold production for this.
Tony: which one is the macro to double check again before production?
Chris: the one in the master: https://github.com/sPHENIX-Collaboration/macros/blob/master/macros/g4simulations/G4_Svtx.C
Alan: Is Kalman filter with SVX ladder working?
Tony: having trouble finding track once turn on covariant matrix option.
Ron S. and Alan - TPC update
Ron Page 3:
Volunteer welcomed: function study with TPC
Alan page 1:
Mike: what's the quantification of the effect?
Alan: need to work out.
Dave: good to improve communication to ALICE. May deserve to simulate the current ALICE setup as our simulation calibration too.
Ron: Need measurement for calibration of the gain structure of readout, leads to uncertainty in this study at this stage.
Craig: ALICE are looking at a few readout options. The space charge is dominated by the readout ion back flow.
Dave, John and Jin: what about pp at improved luminosity ?
Craig: coincidentally, the effects are similar due to similar #track/s in HI VS pp.
Alan: need to quantify the smearing residual after the correction. Need to study and talk to experts.
Chris: there is a 2006 NIM paper on STAR and a thesis from ALICE: Simulation & Calibration of the ALICE TPC including innovative space charge calculations:
http://inspirehep.net/record/887113/files/CERN-THESIS-2009-124.pdf
Alan: what is the time scale?
John H.: document final in Mid Oct. Draft early Sept. Detector definition very soon.
Ron: plan not implementing space charge effect for now.
Craig: suggest quote a rough relative deterioration based on existing, e.g. STAR's experience.
Alan page 2:
Alan: what plot we would need for pre-CDR.
Mike/Tony/Ron: consistent with SVX option studies, suggest tracker performance plots (dp/p, eff., purity, DCA) for pp and central HIJING. dE/dx for TPC only studies.
Alan page 3
Alan: what is criteria to merge?
Mike: will help in certification.
Alan: Time scale need?
Mike: sooner than later since it gets harder and harder.
Dave: Talked with Jim Thomas. He is willing to join this meeting to discuss directly. Many useful comments.
Action Item [Jin, Dave, TPC team]: Email to organize a discussion with Jim Thomas at a future meeting.
Tracking in general:
Dave: shall we try GenFit for general Kalman fit framework?
Both Dave and Mike are interested in working on this direction.
Jin: what is the portion of photon conversion background for Upsilon?
Tony & Alan: should be negligible small. Need to double check Sasha's past study.
Calorimeter Updates
Jin - full projective SPACAL merged to nightly build. Small bug fix in the weekend. Chris running test production.
Chris: New field map from Achim. Start trying single particle simulation in the new reference simulation.
Achim: Walter is also working on 3D magnetic field.
Jin: will cross check with after-burner once receiving it.
Ron: what is the status of the finalization of HCal code
Chris: recently adjusted air gap. Outer Hcal use fixed tilt angle. Ready for test production.
Mike - Analysis software
Many progress made in the past a few weeks:
Finished Items:
· Jet storage
· Jet reconstruction module
o https://github.com/sPHENIX-Collaboration/macros/blob/master/macros/g4simulations/G4_Jets.C
o Although set to disable by default, but ready for test in private by activate flag in
· Tracking evaluation
o New scheme in evaluator objects
· Pythia 8 driver module (imported from Matt Snowball)
o https://github.com/sPHENIX-Collaboration/coresoftware/tree/master/generators/PHPythia8
· A few bug fix in vertex module and tracking
John H. (Offline): PHENIX beam pipe is 43.2 mm in diameter and the wall is 0.76 mm thick Beryllium
Action Item [Mike]: Update the macro
Jin: Should user use the new Ntuple maker as example for using the evaluator objects?
Mike: Yes. User can copy it to get example of using evaluators:
Issue: x4 slower from various pointer copying?
Chris: We can try profilers, including GNU gprof and callgrind. Not yet tested on RCF.
TODO items:
· Calo Eval.
· Optimization
· ATLAS Jet reco
· FastSim
Chris/Peter: Vertex reco has problem in truth container. Multi-vertex problem.
Mike: on TODO list, though not top
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Subject: [reminder] sPHENIX simulation meetings, Tue Aug 18th 1-3PM @ 2-160
Dear All,
Despite of the EMCal review dry run, we will still have a brief weekly sPHENIX simulation meeting Tue Aug 18th 1-3PM. Let’s start the meeting with brief updates on software status for TPC, calorimetry and analysis software. More contributions are welcomed too.
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Jin
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Re: [Sphenix-tracking-l] [Sphenix-software-l] [minutes] sPHENIX simulation meetings, Tue Aug 18th 1-3PM @ 2-160,
Jamie Nagle, 08/19/2015
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