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  • From: ShinIchi Esumi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>
  • To: qyq AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn, wensong814 AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn
  • Cc: Star-cf-l <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: [Star-cf-l] About your pair cuts etc with SL and dphi/deta(dtheta) ...
  • Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2022 00:24:42 +0900

Dear Youquan (Wensong and Anna, Vinh)

Thank you very much for showing your very nice studies on the pion (and kaon) 
correlations. Could you (Youquan) please show us the correlation function 
in 2D distribution like p11, c2(Qinv, SL), which is the ratio of "real/mix”, or 
subtracted distribution “real - mix” after normalization? I would like to see 
them for different centrality cases as you have mentioned 0.3 cut is good enough 
for all centrality selections. This is also because Anna/Vinh uses 0.6 cut on 
the same parameter with the similar(?) data set, although it might be different 
because of other conditions like FMH(R?) etc, and TPC/iTPC difference as 
Grigory says.

There were some discussion about delta_phi or data_phi* cut in both of your
talks. delta_eta (or delta_theta) cuts are needed simultaneously with delta_phi 
cut. I suppose you know about phi* which is the local (position) angle within 
the TPC, that is quite different from phi direction at primary vertex, this is also 
the reason why we say the delta_phi* cut is supposed to be better than delta_phi 
cut (because the splitting and the merging are both happening inside the TPC 
detector, not at the primary vertex). It’s quite easy to get phi* from phi, which is 
just given by pT and charge of the track at a given radius in the TPC. So 
“delta_eta && delta_phi* cut” or “delta_theta && delta_phi* cut” could be easily 
be replaced for both of your cases and it should be better. You would see more 
splitting effect at smaller radius at about 70cm (inner TPC radius) and more 
merging effect at larger radius at about 150cm (middle - outer TPC radius). Since 
you are already based on the SL cut, you would most-likely need this  delta_phi* 
cut on larger radius, since you would like to remove the merging effect with this. 
I would also like to remind and suggest you to plot and look first in order to 
determine the cut values on the “delta_eta (or theta) && delta_phi* cut”, based 
on what you really see on these 2D correlation plots (eta, theta and phi cut do 
not have to be the same) in addition to the final “momentum” correlation function 
in Qinv etc in order to determine the final cuts

By the way, FMH(R) (fraction of merged hit or row?) cut has beed also used in 
previous star hbt analysis, which I do not know much about it, have you tried to 
use the FMH(R?) cut? I would like to see the some qualitative and quantitative 
comparison between “SL && FMH cuts” and “delta_eta && delta_phi* cut at two 
TPC radial positions” or "SL && delta_eta/phi* cut at one radius"where all of 
them might work as we like/expect to remove both splitting and merging, properly.  

Best regards, ShinIchi

PS : Grigory, I could not find Anna's and Vinh’s E-mail address, so please 
forward this to them, if you think this is useful for them, too. Thanks for the 
(continuous) discussion...





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