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  • From: Takafumi Niida <niida AT bnl.gov>
  • To: STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: [Star-cf-l] Notes for PWGC preview (3/10/2023): Charged Particle Multiplicity Dependence of the Net-Proton Distributions in sqrt{sNN} = 200 GeV Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr Collisions
  • Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2023 03:01:08 +0900

Date: 3/10/2023

Participants: Ho San Ko, Ashish Pandav, Nu Xu,
Hanna Zbroszczyk, Barbara Trzeciak, Maria Zurek, Md. Nasim, Ting Lin,
Toshihiro Nonaka, Yi Yang, Yue-Hang Leung, Zhenyu Chen, Rongrong Ma, Takafumi
Niida

Title: Charged Particle Multiplicity Dependence of the Net-Proton
Distributions in sqrt{sNN} = 200 GeV Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr Collisions
PAs: Ho San Ko, Xin Dong, ShinIchi Esumi, Ashish Pandav, Nu Xu, Yu Zhang
Target journal: PLB
Proposal page:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/hsko/Paper-Proposal-200-GeV-isobar-collisions-net-proton-fluctuation-analysis
Presentation:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/Isobar_net_proton_high_moment_analysis_paper_proposal_PWGC_preview.pdf

The PWGC panel previewed a paper proposal from CF PWG. The panel found that
analysis is mature and results are interesting, and recommends that the paper
should move forward with the comment that the physics conclusion should be
sharpened focusing more on isobar data. The following points were discussed.


Q. In conclusions, PAs mention that high multiplicity (HM) pp result and
central AA are consistent with LGT model. But HM pp and peripheral AA are
consistent within their uncertainties. Does it somehow contradict? Do PAs
mean QGP is formed in pp and all centrality of AA?
A. QGP could be formed in HM pp. Currently uncertainty is large but it can be
further checked with run25 pp data. We try to say that the overall decreasing
trends of the cumulant ratios from positive to negative toward high
multiplicity, which approach Lattice QCD calculations, indicates the creation
of thermalized medium. We also refer to the ongoing GPC paper for pp.
C. In Fig. 4, it is true for C4/C2 but C5/C1 and C6/C2 don’t show the trend
with given uncertainties. Isobar central data look consistent with peripheral
data. It would be nice to zoom-in y-axis more if there is such a trend. All
possible explanations should be discussed in the paper.

Q. In Fig. 4, have you checked what the significance of the decreasing trend
is?
A. Haven’t calculated the significance but we fitted the data with polynomial
function as seen in slide 19.
C. If you want to mention the decreasing trend, it would be better to say so
quantitatively.

Q. C4/C2 and C6/C2 seem to show the decreasing trend while C5/C1 doesn’t. Any
intuitive explanation?
C. Likely due to statistical fluctuations

Q. In Fig. 4, three systems are compared. We guess PAs applied the kind of
relative efficiency to refmult3 on x-axis. Could you explain a bit?
A. For Isobar and AA, we haven’t corrected for the efficiency. As shown in
slide 17, the effect is ~14% which doesn’t change the picture in Fig. 4. For
pp collisions, efficiency is ~90% difference. So the x-values for pp were
corrected for the effect.
C. It’s not a fair comparison. Since all the embedding data are there, why
PAs don’t correct for the efficiency, which should be more fair and no
confusion among the different systems. Please think about the data
presentation in a better way.

C. Embedding reproduction was done for isobars with some tunings. The effect
may be small but please check and make sure that the results don’t change.
A. Will do so.

Q. Have you presented your centrality definition in centrality meeting? It
would be better to make an official record.
A. No, PAs will do so.

Q. HRG was compared to the data in Fig. 3 but there was no mentioning. What
is the conclusion?
A. The data are far away from the unity which HRG and Grand Canonical cannot
describe the data.
C. In the paper, please mention something if it’s in the figure.




  • [Star-cf-l] Notes for PWGC preview (3/10/2023): Charged Particle Multiplicity Dependence of the Net-Proton Distributions in sqrt{sNN} = 200 GeV Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr Collisions, Takafumi Niida, 03/10/2023

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