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Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time)
- From: Kincses Dániel <kincses AT ttk.elte.hu>
- To: Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>
- Cc: "star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
- Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time)
- Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2023 11:45:08 +0000
Dear Hanna,
Toshihiro had a remark on slide 7, he agreed that it is hard to compare to previous results when the documentation is not clear.
However, he suggested that the small difference could still be because of the different datasets,
Run-11 / Run-10 differences. If requested, I can try to repeat the same comparison with the Run-10 dataset.
However, he suggested that the small difference could still be because of the different datasets,
Run-11 / Run-10 differences. If requested, I can try to repeat the same comparison with the Run-10 dataset.
The rest of the discussion was with Grigory, he had many questions and comments, I try to summarize them briefly below.
- He asked if the binning in Q is not too small for the momentum resolution.
Indeed, it may be larger than what we used here, and we did fits with rebinned
data (where Q-bins are larger). We will show such tests next time.
- He questioned the amount of fluctuation of the subplot (data-fit)/error on
slide 4. This shows the difference between the blue points and the red curve,
divided by the statistical error on the point for each bin. The chi-square is
the sum of the squares of these points, it is very close to the NDF value, and
the confidence level is thus acceptable (this basically means a chi-square
test). It is important as well, that the fluctuation of these points is centered
around zero (this is a T-test), and has a normal distribution, there are no
additional structures on this subplot e.g., as a function of Q (this basically
means a Wilcoxon test). Hence, this subplot confirms that the theory curve is
statistically well describing the data.
- We discussed the systematic uncertainties; he suggested that I also look at
purity corrections, I will try to look into this.
- We discussed furthermore the lambda parameter, its magnitude, and its
systematic uncertainties. It has the largest relative systematic uncertainties
out of the three main parameters, and the largest contributions to this are the
pair cuts and the DCA cut (as expected). A stricter DCA cut leads to a sample
where the fraction of decay pions is smaller, thus lambda will be larger.
- He also questioned the magnitude of the lambda parameter, and whether the
obtained values are too high, or what can explain such high values. There are
lots of different phenomenology results in the literature for expectations on
the mT dependence of lambda, with values up to 0.8-0.9, e.g., see for example
Fig. 3 of Phys.Rev.Lett. 81 (1998) 2205-2208
but there are many such calculations, for example, done in
Phys.Rev.C 97 (2018) 6, 064911
- He also asked what the R parameter means if the source is not Gaussian,
suggesting that it cannot mean the homogeneity length. We responded that indeed
if the source shape is not Gaussian, then the correct way to represent it is the
scale of the distribution that describes it well, in this case, the Lévy-scale
R, the width of the Lévy distribution. It is actually quite interesting that if
the Lévy-alpha has a minimum near the critical point, the Lévy-scale R has a
maximum, then it can very well be that Gaussian radii have a fully monotonic
trend. This is why it is important to investigate source radii with a
Lévy-shaped source. Also note that if the source has a long tail, then the
Gaussian radii are dominated by that tail (maybe created by hadronic
rescattering and not by QGP dynamics), and do not necessarily grasp the true
scale of the source.
I am currently trying to finalize the systematic uncertainty investigations, and
repeat the analysis for different centrality selections. I am writing an analysis
note, in which I will try to detail everything, and give more thorough answers
to these questions. Hopefully, I will upload it on drupal within a few weeks.
Thanks, best regards,
Daniel
I am currently trying to finalize the systematic uncertainty investigations, and
repeat the analysis for different centrality selections. I am writing an analysis
note, in which I will try to detail everything, and give more thorough answers
to these questions. Hopefully, I will upload it on drupal within a few weeks.
Thanks, best regards,
Daniel
Feladó: Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>
Elküldve: 2023. június 12., hétfő 0:16
Címzett: Kincses Dániel <kincses AT ttk.elte.hu>
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Tárgy: Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time)
Elküldve: 2023. június 12., hétfő 0:16
Címzett: Kincses Dániel <kincses AT ttk.elte.hu>
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Tárgy: Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time)
Hi Daniel and All,
As I was traveling last Thursday, I could not join the meeting.
I saw your slides from the last meeting.
I heard that your presentation had been intensively commented on during the meeting.
As our meetings are not recorded, and I see only your slides, can you write some more details about your presentation and discussion?
Thanks,
Hanna
Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk
PhD DSc Eng, Professor WUT
E-mail: hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
Tel: +48 22 234 5851 (office)
Address:
Warsaw University of Technology
Faculty of Physics
Nuclear Physics Division
Koszykowa 75
Office: 117b (via 115)
00-662 Warsaw, Poland
Wiadomo¶ć napisana przez Kincses Dániel <kincses AT ttk.elte.hu> w dniu 06.06.2023, o godz. 15:17:
Dear Conveners,
I would like to give an update on the Levy HBT analysis at 200 GeV. I will post the slides as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Daniel
Feladó: Star-cf-l <star-cf-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov>, meghatalmazó: Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk via Star-cf-l <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Elküldve: 2023. június 5., hétfő 16:32
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Tárgy: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time)Dear CF Activists,
We will have our weekly CF PWG meeting on Thursday, June 8th, 9:00 AM
(BNL time).
If you would like to contribute, please let us know.
I will be absent as I travel this Thursday but Toshihiro will chair the meeting.
Please try to post your slides at your earliest convenient.
We will connect via Zoom. Please find the connection details under the
meeting webpage.
Thank you,
Best regards,
Toshihiro and Hanna
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/luoxf/correlations-and-fluctuations
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/gos/correlations-and-fluctuations-preliminary-plots
Hanna Paulina ZbroszczykPhD DSc Eng, Professor WUT
E-mail: hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.plTel: +48 22 234 5851 (office)
Address:Warsaw University of TechnologyFaculty of PhysicsNuclear Physics DivisionKoszykowa 75Office: 117b (via 115)00-662 Warsaw, Poland
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Kincses Dániel, 06/06/2023
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Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk, 06/11/2023
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Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time),
Kincses Dániel, 06/12/2023
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Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time),
Kincses Dániel, 06/12/2023
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Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time),
Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk, 06/11/2023
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Re: [Star-cf-l] CF PWG meeting, June 8th, 2023, time: 9:00 (BNL time),
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Kincses Dániel, 06/06/2023
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