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  • From: Rutik Manikandhan <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com>
  • To: Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov>
  • Cc: STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-cf-l] STAR presentation by Rutik Manikandhan for CPOD 2024 submitted for review
  • Date: Mon, 13 May 2024 14:14:46 -0500

Hello Sooraj,
you conclude that there is possibility of correlation length changing in-between. Do we have an understanding of why the correlator drops from 200 to 7.7 GeV? What does a large value at 3 GeV, comparable to that at 200 GeV mean? Can we directly conclude what is seen is a change in correlation length?

pt-pt Correlators are related to temp. fluctuations, and this decrease could be attributed to a decrease in temp. fluctuations, because the temp. is getting fixed and there's a latent heat in the system. 
1)Phys. Rev. C 94, 044901 (2016)
2) Phys.Rev.C 106 (2022) 1, 014910

I dont think we can directly conclude that the energy dependence we see is that due to correlation length changing, in fact the paper that I have referenced does hint to it in their statement "We do not expect F to vary strongly with energy unless the correlation length changes, e.g., from a liquid to a gas value", so the mixing of two contributions (partonic and hadronic) could possibly lead to this.

1) https://arxiv.org/pdf/nucl-th/0510011
2) https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.92.162301

Best,
Rutik Manikandhan
PhD Candidate, Experimental Nuclear High Energy Group
Physics Dept.
University of Houston


On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 12:47 PM Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov> wrote:
Thanks Rutik. We have the embedding at 3 and 3.2 GeV, and there is no strong energy dependence. So you could take a look. 

On S16, you conclude that there is possibility of correlation length changing in-between. Do we have an understanding of why the correlator drops from 200 to 7.7 GeV? What does a large value at 3 GeV, comparable to that at 200 GeV mean? Can we directly conclude what is seen is a change in correlation length?

Best,
Sooraj

On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 7:18 AM Rutik Manikandhan <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Sooraj,
Thank you for the question,
Yes, R is the robust variance and it's a function of the charged particle multiplicity. We haven't tried fitting this quantity as a function of dN/deta. To do this as a function of energy we would need the efficiency corrected dN/eta of all charged particles as a function of energy. We did publish these fits as a function of Npart, hence I followed suit, but this this something we could try in the future. 

Best,
Rutik Manikandhan
PhD Candidate, Experimental Nuclear High Energy Group
Physics Dept.
University of Houston


On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 4:35 PM Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov> wrote:
Hi Rutik,
   Thanks for these nice slides. 

On S.8, in the _expression_ for R, what is N here? The total multiplicity? If it is the multiplicity, have you tried power law fits as function of multiplicity? Would this give a better fit, and also explain some of the trend you see as function of energy?

Best,
Sooraj 

On Sat, May 11, 2024 at 1:03 PM Rutik Manikandhan via Star-cf-l <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Conveners,


Best,
Rutik Manikandhan
PhD Candidate, Experimental Nuclear High Energy Group
Physics Dept.
University of Houston


On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 7:06 PM Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk via Star-cf-l <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Rutik,

Following the discussion from last CF PWG meeting, please reduce the FXTMult range up to ~ 200 particles at the multiplicity plot (slide 5).

With this implemented, I sign off.

Thanks,
Hanna

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Wiadomość napisana przez Rutik Manikandhan <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com> w dniu 09.05.2024, o godz. 17:13:

Hello Conveners,

I have made the changes to the presentation as per the suggestions at today's meeting.

Best,
Rutik Manikandhan
PhD Candidate, Experimental Nuclear High Energy Group
Physics Dept.
University of Houston


On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 7:40 AM Rutik Manikandhan <manikandhan.rutik AT gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Hanna,
Thank you for your comments, I have made the changes and uploaded them at : https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/RutikCPOD_ver1.pdf

Best,
Rutik Manikandhan
PhD Candidate, Experimental Nuclear High Energy Group
Physics Dept.
University of Houston


On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 2:35 PM Hanna Paulina Zbroszczyk via Star-cf-l <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Rutik,

Thanks for submitting your presentation on time.

Find below my comments to improve:

Slide 1:
Please add „Partially funded by” and add logo of DOE
Move „the” to the next line

Slide 3:
Third bullet: energies >= 7.7 -> energies \sqrt{s_{NN}} >= 7.7
If the figure was not prepared by you, add a reference


Slide 5:
Second bullet reaches the description of the Y axis from the figure, please decrease fonts or make the figure smaller.

Slide 6: 
First bullet chromodynamics.[2] -> chromodynamics [2].
Refrenie: [2] : ALICE -> [2]: ALICE

Slide 7:
S. Gavin Phys. -> S. Gavin, Phys.

Slide 8:
S. Gavin Phys. -> S. Gavin, Phys.

Slide 9:
ALICE,Eur. -> ALICE, Eur.

Slide 10:
STAR,Phys. -> STAR, Phys.

Slide 12:
S. Gavin Phys. -> S. Gavin, Phys.
 
Slide 14:
 GeV , implying -> GeV, implying

Slide 16:
Transport -> transport

Kind regards,
Hanna


prof. dr hab. inż. Hanna Zbroszczyk
E-mail: hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
Tel: +48 22 234 5851 (biuro)

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Poltechnika Warszawska
Wydział Fizyki
Zakład Fizyki Jądrowej
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Biuro: 117b (via 115)
00-662 Warszawa




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Department of Physics
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Sooraj Radhakrishnan
Research Scientist,
Department of Physics
Kent State University
Kent, OH 44242

Physicist Postdoctoral Affiliate
Nuclear Science Division
Lawrence Berkeley National Lab
MS70R0319, One Cyclotron Road
Berkeley, CA 94720
Ph: 510-495-2473



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