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  • From: Hanna Zbroszczyk <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>
  • To: "star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [[Star-cf-l] ] STAR presentation by Yu Hu for ICNFP 2024 submitted for review
  • Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2024 14:52:48 +0200

Dear Yu,

Thank you for incorporating the comments. Your presentation is very logic and looks well. 

Two more minor comments.

Regarding S2, where you mention very precise LQCD predictions about T_{CEP}, please add a reference.
Regarding S15, please add a reference regarding model predictions you mention about p-d and d-d FSI parameters. 

With those implemented, I sign off,
Enjoy the conference,

Kind regards,
Hanna


Prof. Hanna Zbroszczyk, PhD, DSc, Eng.
E-mailhanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
Tel: +48 22 234 5851 (office)

Address:
Warsaw University of Technology
Faculty of Physics
Nuclear Physics Division
Koszykowa 75
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00-662 Warsaw, Poland



Wiadomość napisana przez Hu, Yu <yuhu AT bnl.gov> w dniu 22.08.2024, o godz. 00:25:

Dear Hanna,

Thanks a lot for the details comments and suggestions. Please find the updated version from the link below.

For the \mu_B for 200 GeV, I put 25 MeV to keep the consistency with the number shown in the table.
For the p-p results, thanks for letting me know the status, since the preliminary results cannot be shown, I put STAR Nature paper results instead. I hope this is ok.
For the p-d and d-d, I thought I used the preliminary one, but the model curves might be different. Since I won't go through too many details for that measurement in my talk, I changed them into the plot shown on the STAR preliminary page. The FSI pars are model predictions, to avoid more confusion, I added a label marked "model predictions".
The p-Lambda and d-Lambda results are identical to the QM23 results. I just replot the p-Lambda from 3 panels to 1 panel to fit the layout.

Thanks again.
Best,
Yu

From: star-cf-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov <star-cf-l-request AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Hanna Zbroszczyk <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
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Subject: Re: [[Star-cf-l] ] STAR presentation by Yu Hu for ICNFP 2024 submitted for review
 
Dear Yu,

Thank you for sharing your slides.  The presentation looks very nice and is well-organized.

Here I list my comments:

General comment: as your talk has 15+ slides, I recommend adding an outline to help your listeners navigate through your presentation.

S2: you mention that cross-over transition occurs for \mu_B/T < 2, whereas recent calculations suggest that the critical point is disfavored  for \mu_B/T < 3, indicating that the cross-over is expected up to that range. 

Given this, I suggest modifying the sentence to reflect that the location of the cross-over is constrained to \mu_B/T < 3, and to replacing the figure with more up-to-date version. 
One option is to directly use the figure from this paper (Figure 1): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2101.09210. It shows that the critical point is aligned with  \mu_B/T = 3, which you can present as one of predictions.
Another possibility is to follow some recent predictions. I recommend using the QCD phase diagram from this paper (Figure 1): https://arxiv.org/pdf/2208.01981, which clearly illustrates several predictions placing the critical point at \mu_B/T <3

Whenever you present any prediction, please include a reference (e.g., here you predict the T_{CEP}). By the way, the temperature value mentioned is inconsistent with the location of the critical point in the figure.

S4: Ensure that you use the same QCD phase diagram as in Slide 2.

It will also be a good idea to mention (especially as the top figure shows BES-I data as well) that full BES range covers even lower \mu_B. Depending on the collision centrality from \sqrt{s_{NN}} = 200 GeV you get the value of \mu_B around 15-20 MeV (lower for more peripheral collisions).

When mentioning particulate detector subsystems: iTPC, ETOF, EPD, I suggest pointing them on the figure of the STAR detector (you might also consider  updating or replacing the figure if needed) 

S5: are sensitive -> are suggested as a signature of (since we don’t have an evidence to that..)

S6: Different centrality definitions include not only different \eta but include / exclude protons to avoid self-correlations.
Please make it clear. 

S7: Any bullet to summarize the physics / message to take from here will be helpful.
The figure does’t refer to any work, please put CPOD’24.

S8: ~20GeV -> \sqrt{s_{NN}  = } ~20 GeV (and add a space between 20 and GeV)
models/70 -> models / 70 (add a space twice)
1.3-2\sigma -> 1.3. - 2\sigma (add space twice)
Refer to CPOD’24 conference.

S11: add  [1] and [2] references
Define all symbols used in the formulas and 

S12: No clear -> no clear
Use consistently symbols of particles instead their names: e.g. pions -> \pi, Kaon -> K (last 2 bullets)
Define m_T (it’s not obvious how transverse mass is considered in case of pair)

Slide 14:
The preliminary p-p correlation functions are no longer shown because, after switching from global to primary tracks, the correlation function changed. Please remove the figure on the left.

S15: Preliminary p-d and d-d results with FSI parameters were never shown by STAR. Please show the same results as got preliminary labels for QM’22: https://indico.cern.ch/event/895086/contributions/4724875/attachments/2423137/4147792/QM2022_KeMi.pdf

S14, 16, 17: for p-\Lambda and d-\Lambda also make sure you show the same results as for QM’23
 
I hope that is helpful,

Kind regards,
Hanna

Prof. Hanna Zbroszczyk, PhD, DSc, Eng.
E-mailhanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl
Tel: +48 22 234 5851 (office)

Address:
Warsaw University of Technology
Faculty of Physics
Nuclear Physics Division
Koszykowa 75
Office: 117b (via 115)
00-662 Warsaw, Poland



Wiadomość napisana przez Hu, Yu <yuhu AT bnl.gov> w dniu 21.08.2024, o godz. 04:14:

Dear Nu,

Thanks a lot for your comments and suggestions. Please find the newer version from the link below:

For comments (3), instead of R_inv(pion) > R_inv(Kaon), I used R_G(pion) > R_G(Kaon); 
For comments (4), there are some differences in the scattering length between low-E scattering and the LL formula, but the numbers are comparable. But I removed that statement to avoid confusion. 
For comments (5), I was planning to say the p-d can provide insights on 3-body interactions, but since the first bullet I wanted to state the model with 2-body described our data well, I removed that statement to avoid complications.

Thank you.
Best,
Yu

 
From: Nu Xu <nxu AT lbl.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2024 20:16
To: Hu, Yu <yuhu AT bnl.gov>
Cc: nxu AT lbl.gov <nxu AT lbl.gov>; STAR Correlations and Fluctuations PWG <star-cf-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; Zbroszczyk Hanna <hanna.zbroszczyk AT pw.edu.pl>
Subject: Re: STAR presentation by Yu Hu for ICNFP 2024 submitted for review
 
Hi Yu,

I have problem with the working group page. 
Here are my comments/suggestions about the presentation:
1) page 6: for the 3.0 GeV data, we took about 260M event in 2018;
2) page 8: title => "Cumulant of Net-Protons";
3) page 13: (i) 1st bullet: at the beginning, add "within 3.0 < energy< 3.9GeV," ... ; (ii) add an additional bullet: "R_inv(pion) > R_inv(Kaon) at all collisions energies" ; (iii) last bullet: change to "Different <mT> dependence for pions and Kaons";
4) page 15: (i) the definition of the scattering length is in consistent; (ii) the value of the scattering length for pp pairs (7.2 fm) is much larger than that of pL pairs (2.3fm)!!! ;
5) page 16: I am not sure what do we mean by the 2nd bullet;
6) page 19 - right column: reverse the order of the 1st and 2nd bullet

That is all for now.
Nu

> On Aug 20, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Hu, Yu <yuhu AT bnl.gov> wrote:
> 
> Dear Hanna, Nu, and All,
> 
> I somehow didn't see the email go out, please find my slides for the ICNFP talk.
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/ICNFP-2024/Overview-STAR-Measurements-Correlations-and-Fluctuations-0
> 
> Comments and suggestions are welcome!
> Best,
> Yu




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