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  • From: Shengli Huang <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu>
  • To: ShinIchi Esumi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Shengli Huang for Initial Stages 2021 submitted for review
  • Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 20:24:57 -0400

Dear ShinChi,
    I have no idea for the task force but I think you are in the task force. I am still finalizing the paper draft now. So once it is done. I will request for the pwgc review. Sorry for the waiting, COV-19 really ate most part of my time.

Thanks!
Shengli

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 8:17 PM ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Shengli
I see. The sub-nucleon structure would be there in all the case, but the 
nucleon fluctuation is getting dominant in dAu and 3HeAu cases, so I can 
also agree. Then it’s now getting closer to the phenix conclusion then, I 
thought you were saying more about multiplicity rather than the geometry 
from star side, or? I’m open to both cases, which is in deed interesting. 
Could you remind me your publication status on this? I thought we were 
forming some task forces to resolve these issues between the experiments, 
do you know about that as well? By the way, one of our student Yuri from 
Tsukuba has started to looking into dAu, so let’s see what she would say 
in the PWG, hopefully very soon... 
Best regards, ShinIchi

On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:52, Shengli Huang <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:

Dear ShiniChi,
    Even with sub-nucleon fluctuation, the eccentricity in centrally dAu will be 20% larger than pAu. So the multiplicity will not be the only reason for the flow difference between these three small systems.
    There is no energy dependence between RHIC and LHC even in large system while the <Nch> can be a factor of 5 difference. 

Thanks
Shengli

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Shengli
I thought your results could be explained by a general multiplicity
trend from pA -> dA -> 3HeA? Therefore I was wondering why you
need (or like) to say “pA” is similar to LHC, I just like to know what 
is special on pA and/or different from dA and 3HeA...
Best regards, ShinIchi

On Sep 23, 2020, at 4:08, Shengli Huang <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:

Dear ShinIshi,
     I am a little confused about you second comments. Similar to pPb is by comparison which we show in BUR. But we do not say p/d/He are similar.

Shengli

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 14:47 ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Shengli
I can also sign off your nice abstract with a few comments below.
You say the results are not sensitive to the methods, but I understood
that you’ve selected the methods based on the consistency of the results.
Is your pAu qualitatively different from dAu and 3HeAu? I’m asking this
because you say it's similar to pPb at LHC…
Best regards, ShinIchi

> On Sep 23, 2020, at 0:41, Prithwish Tribedy via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Hi Shengli,
>  Nice abstract, here are my comments -- with these included I sign off.
>
> 200 GeV are shown -- > 200 GeV will be shown
>
> A weak system independent v3 has been found -->  A weak system dependence of v3 has been observed
>
> for three central small systems --> in the central events of three small systems
>
> Comparing with different hydro-model  --> Comparison with different hydro-model
>
> It think the hydrodynamic evolution is no the emphasis here. How about saying "hydro-model calculations with different assumptions on the initial conditions" ?
>
> dominated by sub-nulceon fluctuations --> dominated by sub-nulceon scale fluctuations
>
> vn in p+Au is similar to that in p+Pb from LHC --> vn in p+Au at RHIC is similar to the same in p+Pb at the LHC
>
> We will also discuss the proposed O+O run at RHIC in future --> In the context of our measurement we will also discuss the prospects of the proposed O+O run at RHIC
>
> It will supply a direct comparison with LHC O+O results --> It will facilitate a direct comparison with the results from an anticipated O+O run at the LHC
>
> underlined physics for the anisotropic behavior and initial geometry in small system.
> -->
> underlying physics driving the anisotropic behavior and the role of the initial geometry in small collision systems.
>
> Best,
> Prithwish
>
>
>
> On 2020-09-22 10:20, Shengli Huang via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Dear Jiangyong,
>>     Thanks for the comments. I update the abstract by taking your
>> suggestion.
>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/52107
>> Thanks!
>> Shengli
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 8:17 AM Jiangyong Jia via Star-fcv-l
>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Hi, Shengli,
>>> The abstract looks good. I think you should mention the additional
>>> study
>>> you have done since QM, so it does not sounds like a repeat of the
>>> QM talk.
>>> I would mention
>>> 1)  a detailed evaluation of the non-flow and method dependence have
>>> been carried out. The results main robust.
>>> 2)  comprehensive comparison with recent model calculations has been
>>> performed, which provide new material for interpretation.
>>> 3)  mention a detailed comparison with LHC has been done for various
>>> systems and provide motivation for O+O runs.
>>> 4) anything you should say about the c2{4} measurement?
>>> Jiangyong
>>> On 9/16/20 8:28 PM, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>>> Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>>> Shengli Huang (shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu) has submitted a
>>> material for a
>>>> review, please have a look:
>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/52107
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