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  • From: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • To: ShinIchi Esumi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Shengli Huang for ISMD2021 submitted for review
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 01:13:19 -0400

Hi Shengli,
Nice slides. Please consider my following comments -- with these included I sign-off.

slide#2:
"Deformation has negative contributes on
correlation between v2"
-->
"Deformation has negative contribution on
correlation between v2"

slide#5:
I am not sure how to modify this sentence about Pearson coefficient. It contain boths three particle and two-particle correlations (in numerator and denominator). Currently the sentence is a bit ambiguous.
Probably we can write:
"Pearson coefficient: designed to measure dynamical fluctuations"
or
"Pearson coefficient: designed to eliminate statistical fluctuations"

slide#11 and other titles where you write "compared with"
"Compared with TRENTo initial condition model"
-->
"Comparison with TRENTo initial condition model"

slide#12 and everywhere:
Let's choose one of this: "A hierarchical" or "An hierarchical"

slide#13:
"AMPT can do a more precise calculation due to large statistics"
-->
"AMPT allows more precise calculation due to large statistics"

slide#14:
Can you please move the labels like "STAR 0-5.0%" away from the red band. You an put them either above or below to improve clarity.
Please put U+U collisions somewhere in the plot. I am not sure we need to put "STAR preliminary" on each plot -- probably not.

slide#14:
"with three model"
-->
"with three models"

slide#14:
"central region"
-->
"central collisions"


slide#14:
"First time to extract the quadrupole deformation at extremely short time scale (<10^-24s)"
-->
"First extraction of quadrupole deformation at extremely short time scales (<10^-24s) of heavy ion collisions"

slide#15:
"A sign change is observed"
-->
"A sign change of v2-pT correlation is observed"

"Non-flow has been study vis"
-->
"Nonflow has been studied via"

"central region"
-->
"central collisions"

"comparing with several model calculations"
-->
"comparison with several model calculations"

"indicates the β_2"
-->
"constrain β_2 in the range of 0.2-0.4 for Uranium"


"First time to extract the quadrupole deformation at extremely short time scale (10^-24 s) by heavy ion collisions"
-->
"First constraints on quadrupole deformation of nuclei at extremely short time scales (<10^-24s) accessible through heavy ion collisions"


Best,
Prithwish



On 2021-07-08 20:54, ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l wrote:
Dear Shengli
Thank you, it’s clear now including the model part, sorry that
I’m slow. The experimental choice of centrality selection is give
by model calculation, so now you show data only at 0-1% and
0-5%, not 0-0.5% anymore… (that’s the drawback…)? I sign off.
Best regards, ShinIchi

On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:04, Shengli Huang
<shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:

Dear ShinIChi,
I update the slide #14 with a new plot.

https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/ismd2021/exploring-deformation-nuclei-correlation-between-anisotropic-flow-and-trans-0

Thanks!
Shengli

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 4:04 PM Shengli Huang
<shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:

Dear ShinIchi,
We can change the beta2 in model by hand.So the model can cover
any beta2 if we want.
Is it your question? I am a little confused
here.

Shengli

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 14:56 ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l
<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Shengli

Two questions, (the first one is now solved though.)

How could the experimental data 0-0.5% and 0-5% be similar in
x-axis, while
0-1% point is somewhat different? I’m only talking about the
x-value “beta2”
for the experimental data points. (Now I know, you have just chosen
the x-value
from model line that gives the experimental y-value, which is highly
misleading, if
you do plot the data points like this. In such case, horizontal
lines for the
experimental data would be better to avoid any possible confusion as
you say.)

Why these all 3 model calculations (3 bands) can cover such a wide
range of beta2
from -0.1 to 0.4?, although the collisions systems(?) and
centralities are specified
for each model, which was my initial question about the models, that
you do not
still answer yet…

Best regards, ShinIchi

On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:14, Shengli Huang
<shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:

Dear ShinIchi,
I have updated the slide #14. You can find the new version
with same link:


https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/ismd2021/exploring-deformation-nuclei-correlation-between-anisotropic-flow-and-trans-0
Now we match the data with model calculations with the same
y-axis to determine the beta2 value.

Thanks!
Shengli

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:20 AM Shengli Huang
<shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
Dear ShiniChi,

The beta2 value is from model input. So the plot is ruo vs beta2
from three model calculations.
For the star measurements, we only have the y-axis value. Maybe we
should switch it horizontal lines to
make it more clear.

Thanks!
Shengli

On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:54 AM ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l
<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Dear Shengli
Since results are all previously approved preliminary, so I do not
see any issue
and therefore, would sign off. So please confirm everything are
already shown
and approved before. I think I’ve mentioned earlier, I would
like to know how the
choice of beta2 (x-axis) values for AuAu and UU for 3 different
centralities (0-5 /
0-1 / 0-0.5 %) is made for the plot in page 14, are they also
calculated separately
for 3 different centralities for one system, although it looks
like it is just plotted
slightly shifted? While the model calculations are given as band
as a function of
beta2, so that you might need to explain how it was done.
Best regards, ShinIchi

On Jul 8, 2021, at 0:40, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l
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Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,

Shengli Huang (shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu) has submitted a
material for a
review, please have a look:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/55551

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