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  • From: Shengli Huang <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu>
  • To: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Shengli Huang for ISMD2021 submitted for review
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 10:42:02 -0400

Dear Prithwish,
     Thanks for your comments. The updated talk can be found here:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/ismd2021/exploring-deformation-nuclei-correlation-between-anisotropic-flow-and-trans-0

Regards
Shengli

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 1:14 AM Prithwish Tribedy via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Shengli,
   Nice slides. Please consider my following comments -- with these
included I sign-off.

slide#2:
"Deformation has negative contributes on
correlation between v2"
-->
"Deformation has negative contribution on
correlation between v2"

slide#5:
I am not sure how to modify this sentence about Pearson coefficient. It
contain boths three particle and two-particle correlations (in numerator
and denominator). Currently the sentence is a bit ambiguous.
Probably we can write:
"Pearson coefficient: designed to measure dynamical fluctuations"
or
"Pearson coefficient: designed to eliminate statistical fluctuations"

slide#11 and other titles where you write "compared with"
"Compared with TRENTo initial condition model"
-->
"Comparison with TRENTo initial condition model"

slide#12 and everywhere:
Let's choose one of this: "A hierarchical" or "An hierarchical"

slide#13:
"AMPT can do a more precise calculation due to large statistics"
-->
"AMPT allows more precise calculation due to large statistics"

slide#14:
Can you please move the labels like "STAR 0-5.0%" away from the red
band. You an put them either above  or below to improve clarity.
Please put U+U collisions somewhere in the plot. I am not sure we need
to put "STAR preliminary" on each plot -- probably not.

slide#14:
"with three model"
-->
"with three models"

slide#14:
"central region"
-->
"central collisions"


slide#14:
"First time to extract the quadrupole deformation at extremely short
time scale (<10^-24s)"
-->
"First extraction of quadrupole deformation at extremely short time
scales (<10^-24s) of heavy ion collisions"

slide#15:
"A sign change is observed"
-->
"A sign change of v2-pT correlation is observed"

"Non-flow has been study vis"
-->
"Nonflow has been studied via"

"central region"
-->
"central collisions"

"comparing with several model calculations"
-->
"comparison with several model calculations"

"indicates the β_2"
-->
"constrain β_2 in the range of 0.2-0.4 for Uranium"


"First time to extract the quadrupole deformation at extremely short
time scale (10^-24 s) by heavy ion collisions"
-->
"First constraints on quadrupole deformation of nuclei at extremely
short time scales (<10^-24s) accessible through heavy ion collisions"


Best,
Prithwish



On 2021-07-08 20:54, ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l wrote:
> Dear Shengli
> Thank you, it’s clear now including the model part, sorry that
> I’m slow. The experimental choice of centrality selection is give
> by model calculation, so now you show data only at 0-1% and
> 0-5%, not 0-0.5% anymore… (that’s the drawback…)? I sign off.
> Best regards, ShinIchi
>
>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 9:04, Shengli Huang
>> <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Dear ShinIChi,
>> I update the slide #14 with a new plot.
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/ismd2021/exploring-deformation-nuclei-correlation-between-anisotropic-flow-and-trans-0
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Shengli
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 4:04 PM Shengli Huang
>> <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Dear ShinIchi,
>> We can change the beta2 in model by hand.So the model can cover
>> any beta2 if we want.
>> Is it your question? I am a little confused
>> here.
>>
>> Shengli
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021, 14:56 ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l
>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> Dear Shengli
>>
>> Two questions, (the first one is now solved though.)
>>
>> How could the experimental data 0-0.5% and 0-5% be similar in
>> x-axis, while
>> 0-1% point is somewhat different? I’m only talking about the
>> x-value “beta2”
>> for the experimental data points. (Now I know, you have just chosen
>> the x-value
>> from model line that gives the experimental y-value, which is highly
>> misleading, if
>> you do plot the data points like this. In such case, horizontal
>> lines for the
>> experimental data would be better to avoid any possible confusion as
>> you say.)
>>
>> Why these all 3 model calculations (3 bands) can cover such a wide
>> range of beta2
>> from -0.1 to 0.4?, although the collisions systems(?) and
>> centralities are specified
>> for each model, which was my initial question about the models, that
>> you do not
>> still answer yet…
>>
>> Best regards, ShinIchi
>>
>>> On Jul 9, 2021, at 3:14, Shengli Huang
>> <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear ShinIchi,
>>> I have updated the slide #14. You can find the new version
>> with same link:
>>>
>>
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/presentations/ismd2021/exploring-deformation-nuclei-correlation-between-anisotropic-flow-and-trans-0
>>> Now we match the data with model calculations with the same
>> y-axis to determine the beta2 value.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Shengli
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 10:20 AM Shengli Huang
>> <shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu> wrote:
>>> Dear ShiniChi,
>>>
>>> The beta2 value is from model input. So the plot is ruo vs beta2
>> from three model calculations.
>>> For the star measurements, we only have the y-axis value. Maybe we
>> should switch it horizontal lines to
>>> make it more clear.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Shengli
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 12:54 AM ShinIchi Esumi via Star-fcv-l
>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear Shengli
>>> Since results are all previously approved preliminary, so I do not
>> see any issue
>>> and therefore, would sign off. So please confirm everything are
>> already shown
>>> and approved before. I think I’ve mentioned earlier, I would
>> like to know how the
>>> choice of beta2 (x-axis) values for AuAu and UU for 3 different
>> centralities (0-5 /
>>> 0-1 / 0-0.5 %) is made for the plot in page 14, are they also
>> calculated separately
>>> for 3 different centralities for one system, although it looks
>> like it is just plotted
>>> slightly shifted? While the model calculations are given as band
>> as a function of
>>> beta2, so that you might need to explain how it was done.
>>> Best regards, ShinIchi
>>>
>>>> On Jul 8, 2021, at 0:40, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l
>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>>>
>>>> Shengli Huang (shengli.huang AT stonybrook.edu) has submitted a
>> material for a
>>>> review, please have a look:
>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/55551
>>>>
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