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  • From: "Zuowen Liu" <liuzw AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn>
  • To: "Nu Xu" <nxu AT lbl.gov>, "star-fcv-l" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] EXT: FCV meeting for QM poster approval on March 30 Wednesday 11.30 am EST
  • Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 13:40:56 +0800

Dear Nu,

Thank you for your suggestions.

I think so. We need more evidence to prove that 19.6GeV is partonic interaction dominant.
But we could conclude that the dominant interaction in 3 GeV would be hadronic but not partonic from the STAR 3 GeV paper.
I just pick up one aspect(negative v1 slope at 19 GeV, positive at 3 GeV) to compare these two energies and got the possible conclusion.

Thanks and Best Regards,
Zuowen
 
 
------------------ Original ------------------
From:  "Nu Xu"<nxu AT lbl.gov>;
Date:  Sat, Apr 2, 2022 10:27 PM
To:  "Zuowen Liu"<liuzw AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn>; "star-fcv-l"<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
Cc:  "Nu Xu"<nxu AT lbl.gov>;
Subject:  Re: [Star-fcv-l] EXT: FCV meeting for QM poster approval on March 30 Wednesday 11.30 am EST
 
Hi Zuowen,

I have few comments on this poster draft:

1) slide 5 - summary - 1st bullet: I suggest add “from Au+Au collisions” before ’19.6 GeV’;
2) slide 5 - summary - 3rd bullet: I am not sure, from the poster, how do we get the conclusion, especially that at 19.6GeV is partonic interaction dominant?

Thank you,

Nu

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 7:02 AM, Zuowen Liu via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Dear Declan,
>
> Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
> It has been implemented to the poster.
>
> Best Regards,
> Zuowen


> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From:  "Keane, Declan"<keane AT kent.edu>;
> Date:  Sat, Apr 2, 2022 09:47 PM
> To:  "star-fcv-l"<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; "Zuowen Liu"<liuzw AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn>;
> Subject:  Re: EXT: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV meeting for QM poster approval on March 30 Wednesday 11.30 am EST

> Hi Zuowen,
>
> Thanks for your latest updates. The net particle plot is much clearer now.  My only remaining suggestion is a tweak to the English of your new bullet to explain what you did in that plot:
>
> * Net-pion dv_1/dy is positive at all centralities. To facilitate plotting in
>    the figure opposite, net-pion dv_1/dy is shown with reversed sign.
>
>    Thanks,
>    Declan
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Zuowen Liu via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> Sent: Saturday, April 2, 2022 8:54 AM
> To: star-fcv-l
> Subject: EXT: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV meeting for QM poster approval on March 30   Wednesday 11.30 am EST
>
> Dear Subhash and Declan,
>
> Thank you very much for your detailed and nice suggestions.
> I have updated the poster and it could be found by the link:
> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/QM2022_poster_presentation_Zuowen.pdf
>
> Kindly find answers for questions mentioned at below:
>
> For Subhash:
> Q1: For the centrality definition, how does these refmult boundaries compared with the official number?
> A1: The discrepancy is very small, the gap is between 0 and 3. More details could be found by the attachment.
>
> Q2: slide#4: For v1 vs. y figures on top panels, what are the errors? Are they statistical only or combined with systematic?
> A2: The errors are statistical only.
>
> For Declan:
> I agree that event plane plot is less interesting. I have dropped it.
>
> I got more information about UrQMD used in 3 GeV, maybe it would be useful.
> The version is "4.3" from Drs.  J. Steinheimer, it didn't update for a long time so same as paper published at 2014.
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
> Zuowen
>
>
>
>
> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From:  "subhash"<subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>;
> Date:  Fri, Apr 1, 2022 10:02 PM
> To:  "Zuowen Liu"<liuzw AT mails.ccnu.edu.cn>; "star-fcv-l"<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> Subject:  Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV meeting for QM poster approval on March 30 Wednesday 11.30 am EST
>
> Dear Zuowen,
>
> Thanks for this update.
> A few comments/suggestions for your poster:
>
> For the centrality definition, how does these refmult boundaries
> compared with the official number? I asked the same question to Li-Ke.
>
> slide#4: For your event plane calibration, the re-centering  process can
> have problem as ShinIchi mentioned. You can improve it in future. In any
> case, the shifting correction will flatten everything. For now probably
> you can remove the re-centering line from the figure.
> For v1 vs. y figures on top panels, what are the errors? Are they
> statistical only or combined with systematic?
> For the legend in bottom figure, use net-#pi #times (-1)
>
> slide#5: energy dependence plot, can you use different color (red/blue)
> for STAR preliminary points to make it separate from the published data.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Subhash
>
>
> On 2022-04-01 08:54 PM, Zuowen Liu via Star-fcv-l wrote:
> > Dear Conveners, Declan and All,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your comments in the meeting and Google doc.
> > All of suggestion have been taken and implemented to poster.
> >
> > Kindly find the updated poster by the link:
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/58767
> >
> > Preliminary requesting figures and systematic uncertainty study slides
> > could be found by the link:
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/liuzw/PrelimRequestQM2219p6v1Zuowenver3
> >
> > And here are replies for questions in Google doc:
> >
> > Q1: Slide 4: What do you mean by net-pi:  pi- vs pi+? [Subhash]
> >
> > A1: I just want to mention that v1 slope for net-pi have been flipped
> > sign. Now I have omitted it and add description in the legend.
> >
> > Q2: Slide 5: 3rd bullet:  Not at all clear where this conclusion comes
> > from.[Subhash]
> > A2: I think we can conclude from the STAR 3 GeV paper. The dominant
> > interaction in 3 GeV would be hadronic but not partonic.
> > https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/publications/disappearance-partonic-collectivity-3-gev-auau-collisions-rhic
> >
> > Q3: Is “UrQMD mean field” the same as UrQMD on slide 2 ? [Declan]
> > A3: Yes, it is. Except that UrQMD used for 3 GeV have added
> > bayon-mean-field.
> >
> > Thanks and Best Regards,
> > Zuowen
> >
> > ------------------ Original ------------------
> >
> > From:  "star-fcv-l"<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> > Date:  Fri, Apr 1, 2022 09:13 AM
> > To:  "star-fcv-l"<star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>;
> >
> > Subject:  Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV meeting for QM poster approval on March
> > 30 Wednesday 11.30 am EST
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Another gentle reminder since the time is running out. The posters
> > needed to reviewed in star-talks and to be uploaded in QM indico page
> > by
> > afternoon of April 5.
> >
> > If you have addressed the suggestions received during the meeting
> > please
> > let us know asap by replying  to this email thread. So we can review
> > and
> > sign-off your poster. Thank you for all your hard work.
> >
> > Thanks and regards,
> > Subhash
> >
> > On 2022-03-31 09:08 AM, subhash wrote:
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> Thanks everyone for joining the discussion.
> >> This a important reminder, please consider all the suggestions you
> >> received during the meeting, update your slides/posters/figures in
> > the
> >> Drupal, go through the google doc and consider comments whichever is
> >> applicable, send the homework slides/comparisons to this email
> > thread
> >> as early as possible. Here is the link to the recordings of our
> >> meeting and also posted in the meeting page.
> >>
> >> Recording:
> >>
> > https://stonybrook.zoom.us/rec/share/z5eTtFZ4yD0JriCV-UiEYviMAEJnop-IK2H_VZVHAvS71p0INvxNrxG78fS3Y97k.n0XnfapgIXnBPxh7<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fstonybrook.zoom.us%2Frec%2Fshare%2Fz5eTtFZ4yD0JriCV-UiEYviMAEJnop-IK2H_VZVHAvS71p0INvxNrxG78fS3Y97k.n0XnfapgIXnBPxh7__%3B!!P4SdNyxKAPE!Q7z5sNTSmcNwZhZN7St6QqCbJkMBzSUwMbRX74x1nqzriXXq12mKN2N86UtRnOCl0mxsAr2D%24&data=04%7C01%7Ckeane%40kent.edu%7C7b1033dc1d6a4b69de6b08da14a816bf%7Ce5a06f4a1ec44d018f73e7dd15f26134%7C1%7C0%7C637845009954852278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=PuscxjyzTjVkVrXeK2P%2F%2B16x%2F4w5wzdiQ0hK9LIlxa8%3D&reserved=0>
> > [1]
> >>
> >> google doc:
> >>
> >
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XgLXQW1zIqp5qTr8n9xoesOOlmHmu1a9zUvkXVPQ7II/edit?usp=sharing<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1XgLXQW1zIqp5qTr8n9xoesOOlmHmu1a9zUvkXVPQ7II%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing__%3B!!P4SdNyxKAPE!Q7z5sNTSmcNwZhZN7St6QqCbJkMBzSUwMbRX74x1nqzriXXq12mKN2N86UtRnOCl0qcoNAWj%24&data=04%7C01%7Ckeane%40kent.edu%7C7b1033dc1d6a4b69de6b08da14a816bf%7Ce5a06f4a1ec44d018f73e7dd15f26134%7C1%7C0%7C637845009954852278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=9YGAZDkcUtEUyWO7mYTnQeERnFktvPu7q%2BIWdzX6dqI%3D&reserved=0>
> > [2]
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks and regards,
> >> Jiangyong, Prithwish and Subhash
> >>
> >> On 2022-03-30 06:06 PM, subhash wrote:
> >>> Dear All,
> >>>
> >>> This is a gentle reminder about today's FCV meeting for QM poster
> >>> approval at 11.30 am EST. The agenda is here:
> >>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/jjiastar/bulkcorr
> >>>
> >>> You can post your comments/suggestions/edits to each poster here:
> >>>
> >
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XgLXQW1zIqp5qTr8n9xoesOOlmHmu1a9zUvkXVPQ7II/edit?usp=sharing<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1XgLXQW1zIqp5qTr8n9xoesOOlmHmu1a9zUvkXVPQ7II%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dsharing__%3B!!P4SdNyxKAPE!Q7z5sNTSmcNwZhZN7St6QqCbJkMBzSUwMbRX74x1nqzriXXq12mKN2N86UtRnOCl0qcoNAWj%24&data=04%7C01%7Ckeane%40kent.edu%7C7b1033dc1d6a4b69de6b08da14a816bf%7Ce5a06f4a1ec44d018f73e7dd15f26134%7C1%7C0%7C637845009954852278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=9YGAZDkcUtEUyWO7mYTnQeERnFktvPu7q%2BIWdzX6dqI%3D&reserved=0>
> > [2]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks and regards,
> >>> Jiangyong, Prithwish and Subhash
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 2022-03-29 10:37 AM, subhash wrote:
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> We will have a special FCV meeting on March 30 Wednesday starting
> >>>> 11.30 am EST (NY time) to go through the QM posters from FCV
> > group.
> >>>> We
> >>>> will have 5 minute for each poster + discussions, if needed. We
> >>>> suggest you to make 5 slides for your presentation that we can go
> >>>> through. We will collect cosmetic comments in a google doc, will
> > be
> >>>> shared during the meeting. We request you, especially senior FCV
> >>>> members, to join this meeting. Here is the tentative agenda.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kosuke,
> >>>> Takafumi,
> >>>> Xingrui,
> >>>> Diyu,
> >>>> Li-ke,
> >>>> Zuowen,
> >>>> Edwin,
> >>>> Priyanshi,
> >>>> Rishabh,
> >>>> Prabhupada,
> >>>> Jagbir,
> >>>> Xiaoyu,
> >>>> Ding,
> >>>> Cameron,
> >>>> Chunjian,
> >>>> Yicheng,
> >>>> Jiangyong
> >>>>
> >>>> We will use our regular zoom room.
> >>>>
> >
https://stonybrook.zoom.us/j/95735410810?pwd=M2JRZDBDSng4MG5SYmx6dlppYXhLZz09<https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.com%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2F%2Fstonybrook.zoom.us%2Fj%2F95735410810%3Fpwd%3DM2JRZDBDSng4MG5SYmx6dlppYXhLZz09__%3B!!P4SdNyxKAPE!Q7z5sNTSmcNwZhZN7St6QqCbJkMBzSUwMbRX74x1nqzriXXq12mKN2N86UtRnOCl0nvuCauO%24&data=04%7C01%7Ckeane%40kent.edu%7C7b1033dc1d6a4b69de6b08da14a816bf%7Ce5a06f4a1ec44d018f73e7dd15f26134%7C1%7C0%7C637845009954852278%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=TtQyRrhup%2Bc6kY1cYuxyPm7StsA38RLyg6I3gNHyiR8%3D&reserved=0>
> > [3]
> >>>> Meeting ID: 957 3541 0810
> >>>> Passcode: 486227
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks and regards,
> >>>> Jiangyong, Prithwish and Subhash
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