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  • From: Gavin Wilks <gwilks3 AT uic.edu>
  • To: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
  • Cc: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Gavin Wilks for SQM 2022 submitted for review
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:19:59 -0400

Dear Subhash,

I have now included the arXiv figure on that slide. I agree, seeing the
dependence from the model is better.

Thank you and Regards,
Gavin

> On Jun 8, 2022, at 04:31, subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
>
> Dear Gavin,
>
> One quick comment: You can add the Figure-2 from the arXiv, which would
> make better impression on the expectation from the model. But I would leave
> it to you.
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Subhash
>
> On 2022-06-08 01:01 PM, Gavin Wilks wrote:
>> Dear Subhash,
>> I have addressed the comments and have re-uploaded to drupal. Here are
>> the details of my updates:
>>> slide#5: You can mention: For the first time, a large positive
>>> global spin alignment ... at mid-central collisions
>>> slide#8: Seems redundant. You can combine 8&9 and indicate the
>>> expected improvement for BES-II.
>> I have made these changes.
>>> slide#13: You can refer to this recent arXiv posting on the expected
>>> pT dependence from this phi field model:
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>>
>>> [1] (Figure 2)
>> Now slide #12: I referenced this arXiv figure at the bottom of the
>> text box.
>>> slide#14: Can you indicate the model fit is through BES-I data, may
>>> be you can also change the color of the fitted line same as BES-I to
>>> reflect that.
>> Now slide #13: I changed the color of the line to black to match the
>> points and the legend now specifies “(Fit to BES-I only)”.
>>> slide#15: You mentioned that it is supported by vector meson strong
>>> force field, which is fine. But in view of recent comments that we
>>> received from the Nature referee, it would be good if you could also
>>> indicate that more inputs from theory calculations are needed or
>>> something along that line. So that it sounds STAR doesn't imply that
>>> it is the only possible explanation.
>> Now slide #14: I added “More inputs needed from theory”.
>> Thank you and Regards,
>> Gavin
>>> On Jun 8, 2022, at 00:07, subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear Gavin,
>>> Thanks for addressing my comments. I have a few additional
>>> suggestions:
>>> slide#8: Seems redundant. You can combine 8&9 and indicate the
>>> expected improvement for BES-II.
>>> slide#13: You can refer to this recent arXiv posting on the expected
>>> pT dependence from this phi field model:
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>>
>>> [1] (Figure 2)
>>> slide#14: Can you indicate the model fit is through BES-I data, may
>>> be you can also change the color of the fitted line same as BES-I to
>>> reflect that.
>>> slide#15: You mentioned that it is supported by vector meson strong
>>> force field, which is fine. But in view of recent comments that we
>>> received from the Nature referee, it would be good if you could also
>>> indicate that more inputs from theory calculations are needed or
>>> something along that line. So that it sounds STAR doesn't imply that
>>> it is the only possible explanation.
>>> I am fine with your presentation once you addressed the above
>>> comments.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Subhash
>>> On 2022-06-08 12:03 AM, Gavin Wilks wrote:
>>> Dear Subhash,
>>> Thank you for the comments on my sQM slides. I have addressed these
>>> comments and uploaded the new copy to drupal.
>>> slide#14: Does the model fit include BES-II data?
>>> No, the model fit is just to the BES-I data.
>>> Also, I have updated the values for the event counts from BES-II
>>> using
>>> the most updated version of the BUR for runs 23-25.
>>> Thank you and Regards,
>>> Gavin
>>> On Jun 7, 2022, at 05:53, subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> Dear Gavin,
>>> Nice slides. I have a few suggestions for your consideration.
>>> Title: you can probably mention either RHIC BES-II or STAR BES-II
>>> slide#5: seen --> observed
>>> "conventional physical mechanisms" --> conventional physics
>>> mechanisms or, conventional
>>> polarization mechanisms.
>>> "phi meson vector strong force field." --> phi meson strong force
>>> field or vector meson strong force field.
>>> slide#7: "Polarization in late stage of hadronic interactions" -->
>>> Different late stage of hadronic interactions. Because I think
>>> hadronic re-scattering can destroy the polarization signal.
>>> "Correlations between d and s-bar fluctuating vector meson fields
>>> .... " --> fluctuating vector meson fields for d and s-bar are
>>> expected to be weaker than s and s-bar
>>> slide#8: Remove validate BES-I. We should stress what are the
>>> improvements at BES-II than BES-I, e.g. increased statistics, better
>>> event plane resolution etc. Also later in your slides mention as a
>>> future outlook that we can increase kinematic coverage in BES-II.
>>> slide#9: Double check the number of events from our recent BUR.
>>> "Improvements to STAR" --> can you be specific here, increased
>>> acceptance, statistics etc.
>>> slide#11: Mention Run-2019 inside Figure.
>>> slide#12: "Correct yields using efficiency calculated from STAR
>>> detector and Pythia6 simulations." --> Correct yields using
>>> efficiency calculated from STAR detector simulations. We probably
>>> don't need Pythia6, since it is techical part of analysis.
>>> Check the prime symbols after "A" and "B" in the first bullet of
>>> right box.
>>> "is set by simulation" --> is determined by simulation
>>> slide#13: Space between 19.6 & GeV. Inside figure mention data
>>> taking year, rapidity acceptance.
>>> slide#14: Does the model fit include BES-II data?
>>> slide#15: "Consistent with BES-I results." --> Stress on the
>>> improvement than consistent.
>>> slide#17: You can remove this since you don't have any backups here.
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Subhash
>>> On 2022-05-31 12:49 PM, webmaster--- via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>> Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,
>>> Gavin Wilks (gwilks3 AT uic.edu) has submitted a material for a review,
>>> please
>>> have a look:
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