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Subject: STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG

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  • From: Evan Finch <levanfinch AT gmail.com>
  • To: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Charles Robertson for DNP 2022 submitted for review
  • Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2022 08:46:58 -0400

Dear Roy,

CW mainly shows the results of two changes to the R-correlator
1) characterizing each event by the average of two subevent versus including
each subevent value separately
2) normalizing the in-plane and out-of-plane distributions separately.
As well as studying a change to the event-plane resolution correction.

Does one or more of those changes remove the "basic rudiments of the
R-corrleator” , and if so, can you discuss why that feature is key to giving
sensitivity to CME signal? Or is there something else that is the key that
CW’s changes destroy?
Please explain.
Thanks,
-Evan


On 10/26/22 7:01 PM, Roy Lacey via Star-talks-l wrote:
> Charles,
> Your talk reeks of misconceptions that miss the basic
> rudiments of the R correlator.
> There can be no doubt that your so-called modified R correlator only
> measures k*v2 [k is a constant]; that is, it is insensitive to signal.
> Unfortunately, the results you plan to present, have little connection to
> what the actual R correlator measures. Therefore, I would like you to pass
> along this fact carefully and accurately. In your talk.
> In a bit, we will show that your claims related to the efficacy of the R
> correlator are not only unfounded but grossly misrepresenting -- I leave it
> to others to determine whether these claims are illusionary or fraught with
> malicious intent?
> Wishing you the very best in your talk.
> Roy
>
>










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