STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG

[EsumiShinIchi <esumi.shinichi.gn AT u.tsukuba.ac.jp>]

Dear Cameron
I think what you say is correct, which comes from Psi1 (mostly from 
spectator). 
I meant more about v3{Psi3} measurements, which would also be affected by 
what you 
are observing with v3{Psi1}. But we would also need to consider there might 
be some 
contribution from the fluctuation by the relation between participants and 
spectators. 
Best regards, ShinIchi 

> On Aug 10, 2023, at 0:32, Cameron Racz <cracz001 AT ucr.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Shinichi,
> 
> I don’t think I quite get what you mean. From what I understand, the v3 
> even is coming from the fact that we are using Psi1 and this even 
> contribution would also show up in v1 since it also uses Psi1. Are you 
> saying that the even portion is instead coming from the initial state 
> fluctuations like v3{Psi3}? Or are these essentially the same thing?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cameron Racz
> Ph.D. Candidate 
> Heavy-ion Physics Group
> University of California, Riverside
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2023, at 9:40 AM, EsumiShinIchi via Star-fcv-l 
>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Rishabh, (and Sharang) and all
>> Thank you very much for the nice results. I might have mentioned you 
>> earlier for several 
>> times, I have now noticed that your "phi-weight and Re-centered” 
>> correction before the final shift 
>> correction seems to be strange as you show in page 5 especially for the 
>> lower 2 panels. Please 
>> tell us what you do exactly? With (1) "inverse-weighting of single phi 
>> distribution" or (2) "re-centering 
>> of the q-vector” would remove the first moment of the non-flatness of the 
>> un-corrected Psi distribution, 
>> but they should not be applied simultaneously (1) and (2) at the same 
>> time, as I see there seems to 
>> be clear over-correction at least for the lower 2 panels. This might not 
>> affect the final result too much, 
>> because of the final shift correction, but it would always be better to do 
>> it right. If you do one-by-one 
>> for (1) and (2), it should work, so please try first (1) and then (2) in 
>> the 2nd step, although the importance 
>> of the 2nd one become lower because of the first correction, though. If 
>> there is not much higher order 
>> non-flatness after (1) or (2), there is not much need for the final shift 
>> correction anyway… 
>> Please make sure the same thing on the re-centering correction in your 
>> analysis (Sharang). 
>> Best regards, ShinIchi
>> 
>> PS : This results are showing the “even” participant fluctuation 
>> originated v3{Psi3} which is same as 
>> higher RHIC and LHC energy, that is quite different from v3{Psi1} that is 
>> also seen at lower energy, 
>> but we would need to keep in mind both effects are affecting both results, 
>> although it's largely 
>> determined by how you have defined your event plane to start with... 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2023, at 22:16, rishabh via Star-fcv-l 
>>> <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Conveners,
>>> 
>>> I would like to give an update on the triangular flow of light nuclei in 
>>> the BES-II energies. Please find my slides at the following link: 
>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/rishabh/Triangular-flow-light-nuclei-BES-II-energies
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Rishabh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2023-08-09 18:40, 韩成栋 via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>>>> Dear Conveners and All,
>>>> Please find my slides of preliminary figures request from this webpage
>>>> link below:
>>>> https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/blog/chan/Preliminary-figures-request-Light-and-Hyper-Nuclei-Collectivity-AuAu-Collisions-RHIC-STA-0
>>>> Thank you for your attention.
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Chengdong Han
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>>>> &gt; Sent Time: 2023-08-08 14:29:35 (Tuesday)
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>>>> &gt; Subject: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 09/Aug/2023 Wed. 9:30 AM 
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>>>> August 20.
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