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  • From: Gavin Wilks <gwilks3 AT uic.edu>
  • To: "Wang, Fuqiang" <fqwang AT purdue.edu>
  • Cc: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Baoshan Xi for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review
  • Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 13:01:17 -0500
Hello Fuqiang,

I just realized those tables are using the wrong numbers, I apologize for this mistake. I have attached the updated tables which reflect the values reported in the preliminary request for QM. 

I am following the same systematic error method used in this analysis note (pages 51-54): https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/AnalysisNote_phiSpinAlignment_v08_01.pdf 
In this method, when we vary dca, nsigma, or normalization range, we are also varying the yield extraction method and integration range range (see figure 56 on page 52). For one source, say nsigma, the rho_00 max and rho_00 min of the combinations of dca, yield extraction method and integration range are used for the dca source of systematic. In the current analysis this results in 3 final contributions to the systematics from these combinations, which are the dca, nsigma and the normalization range. 

In the second-harmonic plane 14GeV result, the default rho_00 is on line 56. For nsigma variations, the rho_00 max and min are found on lines 72 and 67, respectively. The final contribution to the systematic error is found in the file ptDependenceSysSources.txt attached. This files includes all the sources for each energy and EP method.

Best,
Gavin

sqrt{s_{nn}} EP_Order drho_{dca} drho_{nσ_{kaon}}
drho_{NormalizationRange}
14GeV 1 0.00073 0.00114
0.00088
19GeV 1 0.00055 0.00091
0.00109
14GeV 2 0.00094 0.00098
0.00122

Attachment: ptDependence_SysVariations.xlsx
Description: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet

sqrt{s_{nn}} EP_Order dca(cm) n__{kaon} NormalizationRange
IntegrationMethod IntegrationRange __{00}
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3537
14GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3548
14GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3535
14GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3556
14GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3535
14GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3551
14GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3537
14GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.356
14GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3539
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3537
14GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3567
14GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3546
14GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3571
14GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3546
14GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3546
14GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3532
14GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3553
14GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3533
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3537
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3561
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3543
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[0.99,1.00]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3567
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[0.41,0.46]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3547
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3556
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Inte
"[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.354
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3565
14GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3542
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3458
19GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3474
19GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3458
19GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3477
19GeV 1 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.347
19GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3474
19GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3458
19GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3477
19GeV 1 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3471
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3458
19GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3487
19GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3469
19GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.349
19GeV 1 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3488
19GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3473
19GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.346
19GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3477
19GeV 1 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3473
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3458
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.349
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3468
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[0.99,1.00]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3496
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[0.41,0.46]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3491
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3479
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Inte
"[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3462
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3483
19GeV 1 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3477
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3467
14GeV 2 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3492
14GeV 2 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3471
14GeV 2 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3498
14GeV 2 2.5 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3487
14GeV 2 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3493
14GeV 2 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3472
14GeV 2 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.35
14GeV 2 3 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3487
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3467
14GeV 2 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3485
14GeV 2 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3463
14GeV 2 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3492
14GeV 2 2 2 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3472
14GeV 2 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.349
14GeV 2 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3468
14GeV 2 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3497
14GeV 2 2 3 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3483
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3467
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Count "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3499
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05]" Inte "[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3472
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[0.99,1.00]" Count "[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.3507
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[0.41,0.46]" Count "[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.349
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3484
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Inte
"[-2.0_,2.0_]" 0.3464
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-2.5_,2.5_]" 0.349
14GeV 2 2 2.5 "[1.04,1.05],[0.99,1.00]" Count
"[-3.0_,3.0_]" 0.3475

On Aug 22, 2023, at 11:44, Wang, Fuqiang <fqwang AT purdue.edu> wrote:

Hi Gavin,

Thanks for sending the numbers. Let me understand a bit more. Take 14 GeV results using the second-harmonic plane as example. 

Let's say the default is line 56 in the excel:
dca=2cm, nsigma=2.5, norm.range=[1.04,1.05], use integral method, between [-2Gamma,2Gamma], you get rho_00=0.3482.

I see the dca variations to 2.5 cm and 3 cm are line 58 and 63. The changes in rho00 are 0.0004, 0.0005, respectively.
What syst. uncertainty is assigned for dca variation?

I also see the nsigma varitations to 2 and 3 are line 67 and 71. The changes in rho00 are both 0. 
What syst. uncertainty is assigned to nsigma variation?

Best regards,
Fuqiang
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Dear Fuqiang,

I have attached the ρ00 values table for the variations used in our systematic error calculation. This table includes the integrated ρ00 from the pT dependent studies for 14.6 GeV with 1st and 2nd order event plane, and 19.6 GeV with 1st order event plane. I have attached the table as an excel and as a text file.

Best,
Gavin



On Aug 21, 2023, at 11:51, Baoshan Xi via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Dear Fuqiang,

Thank you for your comment.

We will show this information in next version as soon as possible.

Best,
Baoshan


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Hi Baoshan,

On s11, you obtain the syst by (max-min)/sqrt(12). I'm a bit wary of that, because one has to be reasonably certain that the variations are truly min to max. Can you compile a table of the rho00 values for all the syst variations?

Best regards,
Fuqiang
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Dear star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov members,

Baoshan Xi (xibaoshan AT fudan.edu.cn) has submitted a material for a review,
please have a look:
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