STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG

[Gavin Wilks <gwilks3 AT uic.edu>]

Dear Subhash,

I just finished extracting the 3D random EP result for rapidity dependence for 19.6 GeV. I have attached the plot to this email. The result is consistent with 1/3 over the whole rapidity range.

Best,

Gavin

On Sep 1, 2023, at 08:14, Baoshan Xi via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:

Dear Subhash,

Thank you for your comment. Sorry for the late reply. A lot has happened in the past few days, and perhaps this response is already a bit outdated. However, Better late than never.

This reply also includes the content of Gavin, thank Gavin for his continuous work.

Our response is as follows:

General:
For phi spin alignment 19.6 GeV, we already have a preliminary wrt 2nd EP. Please make sure we stick to that.
Figures: For several figures Y-axis label touches the numbers, please fix it.

All plots or integrated values of pT dependent rho00 for 19.6 GeV second order EP are using the existing preliminary results.


s#5: "Supported by a theoretical model ..." --> May be, Consistent with a theoretical model ....

Modified

s#10: Right plot, there is constant shift between results from 1st and 2nd order EP. How do we understand this?

There isn’t a physical reasoning behind this as far as we are aware. These 2nd order results are the SQM2022 preliminary results which have since been updated for 19.6 GeV 2nd Order EP, but cannot be shown at QM2023. The updated results show more consistency with smaller systematic errors.

s#12: In the FCV presentation, we saw there is an asymmetry in the points wrt y. How do you treat that?
Have you checked rho_00 vs y results wrt a random plane?

At present for QM2023, we take the statistical weighted average of the points folded around y = 0 and treat the difference between the two points as a source of systematic error

We have not performed this check yet for rapidity dependence. Gavin is currently working on this.

s#13: Please check the legend labelling. Left figure I think the superscript "1" should be for gray markers.
Are the pT window same for both gray and red?

Yes, the pT windows are the same, we have made it clear in the plot that this is the case.

Please re-arrange the texts below the figure. References and equations and texts are kind of overlapping.

Modified

s#16, 17: Looks too technical, although they are important for this analysis.

Modified

s#16: The fonts of equations look different.

Modified

s#18:  Please add collision system, energy, pt-range etc details for these figures.

Modified

s#18,20: Have you compared rho_00 vs Npart between Au+Au, Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr?

We have not yet done this work and will consider it in the next.

s#20: The centrality dependence between Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr looks different. The Ru+Ru peripheral points seems systematically below the central/midcentral points.

Due to the noisy data of the lowest pt bin and the poor fitting, there may be some uncertainty. In the higher pt interval, it can be seen that the dependence of ρ_00 on centrality is the same in the three systems.

s#21: It might be good to report the factor of error reduction compared to BES-I, instead of saying significant. You already have numbers in slides.
"with data of 2011 and isobar" --> Au+Au and isobars (Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr).
We should state here that \rho^0 and \phi rho_00 shows opposite deviation, which a new finding from this analysis.

Modified

s#49: Your rho_00 efficiency doesn't seem smooth for 1.2-1.8 GeV, is it efficiency or acceptance folded in?

It is efficiency only. If we consider this eff as yield for fitting, the result is 0.329 +- 0.005, which is consistent with 1/3. Our next step will be to consider adding statistics to reduce errors.

s#55: Your systematic due to integration underestimated. IN s#56, you can see 1.0 Gamms vs 1.5 Gamma, you catch the contamination peak at invariant mass of 0.5, but still you get consistent rho_00. Please check this again.
BTW, what is the source of that bump at lower invariant mass?

Theρ_00obtained from different counting ranges is consistent, as the influence of contamination on 7 different cosθ* bins is similar. Therefore, it makes the results insensitive to the selection of counting intervals.

This bump is due to poor fitting of k_s^0. And we can effectively exclude this part of the statistics within the default counting range. At the same time, it can also be seen that the obtained ρ_00 is very insensitive to the counting range.

Best,
Baoshan

-----原始邮件-----
发件人: subhash <subhash AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
发送时间:2023-08-29 10:13:23 (星期二)
收件人: xibaoshan AT fudan.edu.cn
抄送: "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
主题: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Baoshan Xi for Quark Matter 2023 submitted for review

Dear Baoshan, PAs,

Thanks for the updated slides. They look nice. I have a few questions 
and comments below:

General:
For phi spin alignment 19.6 GeV, we already have a preliminary wrt 2nd 
EP. Please make sure we stick to that.
Figures: For several figures Y-axis label touches the numbers,please fix 
it.


s#5: "Supported by a theoretical model ..." --> May be, Consistent with 
a theoretical model ....

s#10: Right plot, there is constant shift between results from 1st and 
2nd order EP. How do we understand this?

s#12: In the FCV presentation, we saw there is an asymmetry in the 
points wrt y. How do you treat that?
Have you checked rho_00 vs y results wrt a random plane?

s#13: Please check the legend labelling. Left figure I think the 
superscript "1" should be for gray markers.
Are the pT window same for both gray and red?

Please re-arrange the texts below the figure. References and equations 
and texts are kind of overlapping.

s#16, 17: Looks too technical, although they are important for this 
analysis.

s#16: The fonts of equations look different.

s#18:  Please add collision system, energy, pt-range etc details for 
these figures.

s#18,20: Have you compared rho_00 vs Npart between Au+Au, Ru+Ru and 
Zr+Zr?

s#20: The centrality dependence between Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr looks different. 
The Ru+Ru peripheral points seems systematically below the 
central/midcentral points.

s#21: It might be good to report the factor of error reduction compared 
to BES-I, instead of saying significant. You already have numbers in 
slides.

"with data of 2011 and isobar" --> Au+Au and isobars (Ru+Ru and Zr+Zr).

We should state here that \rho^0 and \phi rho_00 shows opposite 
deviation, which a new finding from this analysis.


I was also checking your back up slides. I think you will not keep all 
of them for talks. But I have a few questions regarding those:
s#49: Your rho_00 efficiency doesn't seem smooth for 1.2-1.8 GeV, is it 
efficiency or acceptance folded in?

s#55: Your systematic due to integration underestimated. IN s#56, you 
can see 1.0 Gamms vs 1.5 Gamma, you catch the contamination peak at 
invariant mass of 0.5, but still you get consistent rho_00. Please check 
this again.
BTW, what is the source of that bump at lower invariant mass?


Thanks and regards,
Subhash

On 2023-08-28 05:04 PM, xibaoshan AT fudan.edu.cn wrote:

Dear Subhash and all,

Sorry for the mistake.
I have updated the files for both websites.

Best,
Baoshan

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发送时间:2023-08-28 16:05:36 (星期一)
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抄送: xibaoshan AT fudan.edu.cn
主题: Re: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Baoshan Xi for Quark Matter 
2023 submitted for review

Dear Baoshan,

Could you please upload your latest/correct talk at this link?
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fnode%2F64789&data=05%7C01%7Cgwilks3%40groute.uic.edu%7C6dd9421cc0e4404664be08dbaaed6d9b%7Ce202cd477a564baa99e3e3b71a7c77dd%7C0%7C0%7C638291708961958692%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=pNwJO0O96wM8lYiyUEPTs8%2BKIRSJ4Z1jUL94gs0GAAQ%3D&reserved=0
Currently, it has 58 slides, I don't think it is the intended slide
version.


The following link correspond to QM abstract that was submitted.
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fpresentations%2FQuark-Matter-2023%2FNew-Insights-Global-Spin-Alignment-Heavy-Ion-Collisions-Measurements&data=05%7C01%7Cgwilks3%40groute.uic.edu%7C6dd9421cc0e4404664be08dbaaed6d9b%7Ce202cd477a564baa99e3e3b71a7c77dd%7C0%7C0%7C638291708961958692%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KleRD8g8ULf8gGGZGtOpdAwSW2SNu55YswTnGxyrKQs%3D&reserved=0
It should contain QM abstract that is submitted.

Thanks and regards,,
Subhash


On 2023-08-23 09:23 PM, Baoshan Xi via Star-fcv-l wrote:

Dear conveners and all,

I have made some updates to the slides.

Please kindly find the updated report by the link:

https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fpresentations%2FQuark-Matter-2023%2FNew-Insights-Global-Spin-Alignment-Heavy-Ion-Collisions-Measurements&data=05%7C01%7Cgwilks3%40groute.uic.edu%7C6dd9421cc0e4404664be08dbaaed6d9b%7Ce202cd477a564baa99e3e3b71a7c77dd%7C0%7C0%7C638291708962114886%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=VMUKU%2FGDQ9DCgzBRqit7XFRdoqBYjX56yqfLjGTMniU%3D&reserved=0

Best,
Baoshan

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发送时间:2023-08-21 20:55:52 (星期一)
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主题: [Star-fcv-l] STAR presentation by Baoshan Xi for Quark Matter 2023
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Baoshan Xi (xibaoshan AT fudan.edu.cn) has submitted a material for a
review,
please have a look:
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