STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG

["Wang, Fuqiang" <fqwang AT purdue.edu>]

Sooraj,

We also analyzed the data with the conventional method and the raw rho00 results are consistent with those from our inv. mass method. 

In view of the different behaviors of our raw rho00 results and the published nature results, we requested and got the raw rho00 data of the nature paper from the PAs on Aug.19. The nature paper raw rho00 results do not agree with our raw rho00 results, which agree internally between the two analysis methods we carried out. 

I thus requested on Aug.23 during the FCV meeting that all raw inv. mass distributions be sent to us, so we can compare those distributions and also apply our conventional analysis onto those data. The PAC assigned a FCV convener to oversee this. However, we have not received those raw data so far. 

I note that those intermediate step data should be readily available for published papers and, as required by the STAR publication policy, be made available to any STAR collaborator if so requested. The STAR publication policy is not being followed here. 

This has prevented us from possibly identifying root reasons for the discrepancy. Please know that, in effect, we were not given chance to understand and resolve the matter. 

Best regards,

Fuqiang

On Sep 4, 2023, at 11:44 AM, Sooraj Radhakrishnan <skradhakrishnan AT lbl.gov> wrote:



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Hi Fuqiang,

    We had discussions at the pre QM specifically on CWs poster where conveners have pointed out (and the PAs agree) that the raw rho00 from CWRs analysis differs from the raw rho00 from the publication. The reason of this discrepancy is not understood and conveners, PAC and spokespersons have expressed their unwillingness to show the raw rho00 from CWRs analysis publicly before we understand the differences. This was made very clear in the discussion. The discrepancy is still an internal matter for STAR to understand and resolve

Best

Sooraj

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 11:34 AM Wang, Fuqiang <fqwang AT purdue.edu> wrote:

Sooraj,

You stated discussions “with the PAs conveners and spokespersons”. I checked with CW; we were not involved in those discussions. Please clarify what were discussed, and the concrete reason(s) why our raw data plot needs to be removed. 

I will respond further after seeing Rosi’s STAR overview talk. 

Best regards,

Fuqiang

On Sep 4, 2023, at 11:18 AM, Sooraj Radhakrishnan via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:



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Hi CWR,

   Following the many discussions we have had over the past week and during the pre QM meeting with the PAs conveners and spokespersons, please revise your poster with the plot comparing raw data from your analysis with the published results removed and instead with the steps of your correction procedure  (you can move some of the text on the lower box to the box now saying 'Raw Results'). Please upload your updated poster with this change so that we can sign off on it

Best,

Sooraj

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Kent State University

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