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Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
- From: "Ray, Robert L" <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>
- To: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>, "STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG" <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>, William Llope <wjllope AT wayne.edu>
- Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
- Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2024 19:41:28 +0000
Hi Prithwish:
The pipi and KK correlations are available at,
I will figure out how to make all 2000 2D distributions available for viewing.
It needs to be on a web server which supports STAR Protected. There are a lot
of files to move to RACF, but we'll see what to do.
Lanny
From: Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l-bounces AT lists.bnl.gov> on behalf of Ray, Robert L via Star-fcv-l <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 1:18 PM
To: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>; STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; William Llope <wjllope AT wayne.edu>
Cc: Ray, Robert L <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 1:18 PM
To: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>; STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; William Llope <wjllope AT wayne.edu>
Cc: Ray, Robert L <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
Hi Pritwish:
The difference between the pipi and KK like-sign is just
the HBT correlations. The reasons are due to the (yt,yt)
cut bins selected for these sample plots.
The (yt,yt) cut bin for pi+pi in Fig.2 (slide 12) is #8 (see Table II
on slide 10) , which is off-diagonal (i.e. pt's are different,
q = pt1 -pt2, is large, HBT is reduced). I selected an off-diagonal
pi+pi correlation to compare with the unlike-sign and did
not want the HBT peak to confuse the visual comparison.
The (yt,yt) cut bin for K+K in Fig. 2 is #5 which is diagonal and
is a low momentum bin (Table III on slide 10). The peak is HBT
and the slight suppression surrounding it is likely Coulomb
repulsion. I had limited options with K+K because I wanted a
plot for the unlike-sign K+K where the phi resonance is pronounced.
That selection dictated that I use cut bin #5. But other choices are
possible.
Sorry I didn't explain this during the meeting.
The plots of ALL the PID correlations are on our local server
but because super strict IT rules are not just at BNL, these
pages are only available on our local VPN. I'll see how to make
these available to STAR. In the mean time I'll cut/paste the
images and post these on the paper's webpage.
Thanks,
Lanny
From: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 12:34 PM
To: Ray, Robert L <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>; STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; William Llope <wjllope AT wayne.edu>
Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 12:34 PM
To: Ray, Robert L <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>; STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>; William Llope <wjllope AT wayne.edu>
Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM EDT
Hi Lanny,
The study by Bill and Ayeh can you found here:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fblog%2Fajowzaee%2Fbeam-energy-dependence-two-particle-angular-correlations-auau-collisions-rhic&data=05%7C02%7C%7C399c2d2beb85414649db08dca10683a5%7C31d7e2a5bdd8414e9e97bea998ebdfe1%7C0%7C0%7C638562296567869004%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=O8Y0WtfEODAWoT1cSEik4010w45Ndhwf5dA0g8mU3nk%3D&reserved=0
I am cc'ing Bill, he may have point us to previous study of TOF PID cuts
on 2D correlation functions. If I remember correctly he and Ayeh did
look at these extensively.
@Bill:
One a similar note, we're trying to understand the plots on slide#12
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url="https%3A%2F%2Fdrupal.star.bnl.gov%2FSTAR%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2FFactorization_PWGC_Preview_Talk_1.pdf&data=05%7C02%7C%7C399c2d2beb85414649db08dca10683a5%7C31d7e2a5bdd8414e9e97bea998ebdfe1%7C0%7C0%7C638562296567877803%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=uJOXoXbJVLcHCAEPc%2FERn%2BNmgrrvDsYZ3m6HPDWOYXw%3D&reserved=0
For example, let's try to understand why KK looks so different from
pi-pi.
Best,
Prithwish
On 2024-07-10 12:23, Ray, Robert L wrote:
> Hi Prithwish:
>
> Thanks for the discussion and input on the paper proposal.
> I am quite aware of Bill and Ayea's paper. I was one of the
> institutional reviewers.
>
> In Bill Llope's ppt the only mention I found is on slide 9.
> There isn't any detail about PID contamination effects that
> I see here. Is there a different talk maybe?
>
> Thanks,
> Lanny
>
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>
> From: Prithwish Tribedy <ptribedy AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 9:57 AM
> To: STAR Flow, Chirality and Vorticity PWG <star-fcv-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
> Cc: Ray, Robert L <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM
> EDT
>
> Hi Lanny,
> Something happened, can you please change your name/id, maybe use
> your
> surname, and try to join again.
> Best,
> Prithwish
>
> On 2024-07-10 10:40, Ray, Robert L via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My headset died. I should be OK now.
>> But I cannot rejoin the meeting.
>>
>> Lanny
>>
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>> Subject: [Star-fcv-l] FCV PWG meeting on 10/July/2024 Wed. 9:30 AM
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>> Dear All,
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The study by Bill and Ayeh can you found here:
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I am cc'ing Bill, he may have point us to previous study of TOF PID cuts
on 2D correlation functions. If I remember correctly he and Ayeh did
look at these extensively.
@Bill:
One a similar note, we're trying to understand the plots on slide#12
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For example, let's try to understand why KK looks so different from
pi-pi.
Best,
Prithwish
On 2024-07-10 12:23, Ray, Robert L wrote:
> Hi Prithwish:
>
> Thanks for the discussion and input on the paper proposal.
> I am quite aware of Bill and Ayea's paper. I was one of the
> institutional reviewers.
>
> In Bill Llope's ppt the only mention I found is on slide 9.
> There isn't any detail about PID contamination effects that
> I see here. Is there a different talk maybe?
>
> Thanks,
> Lanny
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 9:57 AM
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> Cc: Ray, Robert L <ray AT physics.utexas.edu>
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> Hi Lanny,
> Something happened, can you please change your name/id, maybe use
> your
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> Best,
> Prithwish
>
> On 2024-07-10 10:40, Ray, Robert L via Star-fcv-l wrote:
>> Hi,
>> My headset died. I should be OK now.
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>> Lanny
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