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  • From: Gerard Visser <gvisser AT indiana.edu>
  • To: star-fst-l AT lists.bnl.gov
  • Subject: Re: [Star-fst-l] T-board redesign
  • Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 00:36:38 -0400

hi Maowu and Jianing,
This looks indeed fine. I had to find first the datasheet for the connector and see there that the fixing nut is 3.2 mm hex, so diameter 3.7 mm. This is indeed clear of all other copper on the T-board 3.1 gerbers now posted. Looks just fine.
I'll hold off reviewing the gerbers though until they are finished, which awaits the location and tolerance info that you need to determine where to put the mounting holes or slots on the T board. As Zhenyu remarked in the meeting minutes.
Thanks, sincerely,

Gerard


On 8/17/2020 1:53 AM, nie wrote:
Hi Gerard,

Thanks for the suggestions. We are not quite sure about your first point.
We tried to add one more slides(slide 8) to show the outline of the connectors, and you can see the connectors and copper are not overlapped with each other.
The updated version can be found below:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/20200817_hybrid%2526Tboard_redesign.pdf
Hope it helps.

Thanks,
Maowu & Jianing


在 2020-08-14 21:06,Gerard Visser 写道:
Dear Jianing and Maowu,
    Having looked so far only at the summary slides -- thanks for those!
-- I have a few comments here.

    Could you please show (in an auxiliar 'mechanical' gerber layer) the
outline of the mounting hardware (maximum extent of it) where it
touches the board. *Or alternatively* you could say that you are
absolutely sure that the hardware does not overlap any copper on same
side of the board. I can see you made changes in this that look quite
good, but I cannot tell exactly if they're good enough. [Perhaps this
will be clearer if I go look also at the connector datasheet, I know.
But it may be best to show the constraints in your drawing.]

    More significantly, I think you have not yet addressed the issue of
mounting location and tolerance of mounting location of the T-board
which is constrained as Zhenyu explained by outer hybrid connector
location. This has to be accomodated somehow in the mounting holes of
the T-board. A change is required, as far I understand.

    We should be informed from Rahul & Felix whether those four big holes
on the left are needed in any way for cable fixing. (I guess probably
not.) I think they should be deleted if they're really not going to be
used.

    Thanks, sincerely,

        Gerard


On 8/14/2020 2:14 AM, nie wrote:
Hi Gerard and all,

Thanks for the information.
We just finished the new design on T-board & hybrid.
The updated version can be found in the wiki page:
https://wiki.bnl.gov/star/index.php/Hybrid_and_T-board

I also make a summary slide which covers all the changes:
https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/system/files/20200814_hybrid%2526Tboard_redesign.pdf Comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks,
Maowu&Jianing


在 2020-08-13 10:52,Gerard Visser 写道:
hi Maowu and Jianing,
    I think those four big holes don't really serve a purpose -- however
I'd also say that we haven't seen all the details of how the cable
will be routed and secured along the aluminum mounting ring so maybe
it is premature to say these holes don't help.
    It would be best to delete them if they really don't have a purpose.
    The jumper can be deleted, the bias lines will not be tied together
on T-board nor elsewhere. Let's delete the jumper.
    The two new 24 AWG ground wire soldering holes, maybe should be in
the right half of the board as seen in your picture? Is that feasible?
I think it may work out a little neater if they are a little bit away
from the cable wire holes. But we can consider any good options.
    Sincerely,

        Gerard


p.s. I am reminded from your picture that two of the four existing
mounting holes for the T-board are very near an edge. When things are
refigured as necessary to allow for the tolerance of position of the
outer hybrid's connector, maybe this will be a problem and maybe the
size of the T-board has to be increased a little along that edge. I
hope that the requirements about the outer hybrid connector w.r.t. the
four mount points on the mechanical structure for the T-board can be
defined in a drawing soon?



On 8/12/2020 10:16 PM, Maowu Nie wrote:
Hi all,

We are working on the re-design of T-board now. We want to know if the four holes (red circle) are used or not. if not, Jianing plan to remove these holes, then we have more space to place two GND holes as Gerard suggested, and also we can move the jumper (J1) far away from the purple cable.

The four holes are initially designed for fixing the purple cable, since they are not used, we suggest to replace them as GND holes.

Please correct us if we are wrong.

Thanks,
Maowu & Jianing


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