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Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
- From: Nihar Sahoo <nihar AT rcf.rhic.bnl.gov>
- To: Veronica Verkest <vverkest AT gmail.com>, STAR HardProbes PWG <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
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- Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] STAR presentation by Veronica Verkest for ICHEP 2022 submitted for review
- Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 22:12:27 +0530
Hi Veronica,
Due to limited time, I am fine with this version.
However, please consider to modify the followings.
With implementing this I sign off.
Please send updated version (with Yi's comments implemented) soon, then we can push it startalk.
Conclusion:
"not jet quenching" -> "not" no need to make it bold.
"Jet quenching in p+Au collisions disfavored in STAR p+Au" -> I would rephrase this as
"Jet quenching in p+Au collisions disfavored in STAR p+Au in this measurement"
Thank you
Nihar
On 2022-07-07 21:39, Veronica Verkest via Star-hp-l wrote:
Hi all,
Thank you for the helpful feedback on the poster. I have taken all
comments into consideration and made several changes (the new version
is on Drupal: https://drupal.star.bnl.gov/STAR/node/60189). I would
like to note that I have kept the jet mass figures as they
are--although they have the same physics message, it is important to
show that they are indeed consistent when comparing groomed vs.
ungroomed to make a statement that the mass is not modified. If this
or any of the other changes are still unclear or could use revision,
please let me know.
Nihar--
concerning the conclusion: the anti-correlation between hard jets in
the TPC and soft EA particles in the BBC exists over a large rapidity
span. By causality, this must be a correlation from shortly after the
hard scattering that is not destroyed by medium or final-state
effects. We can discuss this further if there are more questions.
For anyone curious, the poster session is at 13:00 ET tomorrow
(Friday, the 8th) and I am presenting remotely.
Thanks again,
Veronica
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 9:11 AM Sooraj Radhakrishnan via Star-hp-l
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Veronika,
The poster reads good. Please find a few comments from me below
Abstract: '(as shown in ATLAS data)' - do you need this in the
abstract?
Introduction: significant jet modification in p+Au
Method: p_T,lead^reco is undefined
Experiment: Towers have a trigger cut off, isnt? You list the range
from 0.2 GeV
Experiment: Scintillator detector
Jet and UE results: First bullet can be removed, as you dont show
them
Jet mass: Jet mass need to be defined. You dont discuss about jet
mass in the introduction, why it is interesting to study isnt
indicated
Jet mass: second bullet: where do we see this consistency?
Activity vs jet yield: First bullet: Can this bias on the EA
selection be quantified from these distributions? Does it explain
the observed modification?
Activity vs jet yield: Second bullet: Is the same observed also for
EA_BBC selected events?
Conclusion: EA anti-correlated?
Conclusion: Second bullet: where do we see this?
Conclusion: Third bullet: Is there a strong centrality dependent
modification for the jet mass in A+A collisions?
Conclusion: last bullet: the part after hyphen can be removed
thanks
Sooraj
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 5:06 PM Barbara Trzeciak via Star-hp-l
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hi Veronika,
nice and clear poster.
Please see my comments below. With these addressed I sign off.
Introduction:
- Yet ATLAS (right) and PHENIX observed significant jet modification
-> Yet ATLAS and PHENIX observed significant jet modification in
p+Au collisions
Jet mass
- Consistent with QCD predictions and STAR pp data - you don't have
on the plot neither QCD predictions nor pp data, right ?
Since conclusions from the top and bottom plots are the same, I
would suggest replacing one of them with a plot showing a comparison
between the p+Au and pp results.
And I guess the conclusion on the consistency with QCD predictions
is based on the p+p paper ? If so, I would suggest moving the
reference closer to the statement, now it looks that the plot is
taken from this paper.
Activity-dependent jet yields
- Right plot: the legends and labels are very small, please enlarge
them.
= 200 GeV = 200 GeV -> = 200 GeV (the energy is doubled)
Cheers,
Barbara
On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 1:03 PM Nihar Sahoo via Star-hp-l
<star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov> wrote:
Hello Veronica,
Please find my comment and suggestions on your nice poster.
Introduction:
_Yet ATLAS (right) and PHENIX .. -> ATLAS and PHENIX … (please
provide references to these results)
_"WHy ?" Remove it
_"p+A collisions thought too small for QGP formation " Need to
mention
what that is "small"? For example, system size, initial energy
density,
etc
_"How does the hard scattering in an event affect event activity
(EA)
and underlying event (UE) at mid-rapidity?" -> You need to mention
what
is EA and UE.
_Just after the above statement.
This ATLAS plot does not fit to the physics message.
Experiment and Event Activity:
_Mention what is eta?
_"|η|<1, " - > "|η| < 1 " (similarly below) _ "Charged tracks …"
and
"Neutral tower…" in box; please include in the TPC and BEMC
bullets (no
need to have a separate box)
_"the inner BBC signal" -> what is that signal? ADC/hit/ etc.
Jets and UE measurement method:
_R=0.4 -> mention what is R?
_ Need to mention what are phi_lead, phi_trig, phi_UE, eta_lead?
_what is p_{T,lead}^{reco}? Mention it.
Jet mass as a function of EA:
_Define and mention what is jet mass?
_Consistent with QCD predictions and STAR pp data -> "Consistent
with
QCD predictions" or "STAR p+Au data and QCD predictions are
consistent"
Activity-dependent jet yields:
_"The distribution of EA_BBC is inversely correlated to leading jet
pT"
and also its bullet -> Please rephrase this; not clear
Conclusion:
"Dependence of soft particle production on the initial hard
scattering"
-> How do you draw this conclusion?
"Indicates EA vs. Q2 correlations from early time effects" -> Not
sure,
How do you draw this conclusion?
"Jet quenching in p+Au collisions disfavored—no sign of final
state hot
nuclear matter effects" Very strong statement. I would suggest to
drop
this or mild this statement. Not sure how do you get this
conclusion?
Cheers
Nihar
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Barbara Trzeciak, 07/07/2022
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Nihar Sahoo, 07/07/2022
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