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  • From: Barbara Trzeciak <barbara.trzeciak AT gmail.com>
  • To: gaohan_yang <gaohan_yang AT m.scnu.edu.cn>
  • Cc: "star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov" <star-hp-l AT lists.bnl.gov>
  • Subject: Re: [Star-hp-l] Preliminary figures request on Upsilon production in Isobar collisions.
  • Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:34:13 +0200

Hi Gaohan,

thank you for the clarifications and updated slides. 
They look good to me, we can discuss fine tuning of some points, like the trigger sys. unc. towards the publication. 

Please see below my minor comments to your preliminary plots.
- s16,17: Isobar\sqrt{s_NN} -> Isobar \sqrt{s_NN} (missing space)
- s17: Since the global uncertainties here are just from N_coll I suggest: global uncertainty -> N_coll uncertainty. Also, They should be the same for Upsilon(1S) and Upsilon(2S) so it's enough if you plot only one (e.g. in gray or some other color).
I would also add a legend explaining what are different boxes (AuAu and pp uncertainties) - it's not a paper figure where you have it explained in the caption. 
Could you please prepare a version of this plot where you compare to the Au+Au results. 
- s18: I think you can keep this plot from 0 on the y-axis for the preliminary result - I wanted to see internally how it looks like. 
 I would suggest moving "STAR Preliminary" and "Isobar ..." inside the plot to be consistent with your other plots. 
The black dashed line is not explained in the legend. 
- s19: Since you have the same y and pT coverage for both Isobar and Au+Au, you don't need to repeat this info twice in the legend, you can separate it out. 
Could you please compare also result for Upsilon(2S) state

Cheers,
Barbara

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 8:06 PM gaohan_yang <gaohan_yang AT m.scnu.edu.cn> wrote:
Hello Babara,

Thank you for your valuable comments. I have implemented all of them and uploaded new version on the Drupal page which can be found in this link:

 Please see my detailed responses inline.
|- s11: I guess you use template fitting for all three Upsilon states, I see that you get -4 Upsilon(3S) - could you please include a plot where you go to negative count values, so that we can see what happens for Upsilon(3S). Also, please add to the backup fits for all the centrality and pT bins.
— done (see it in slides 21 and 22).
|- s12: how do you decide on the variation values for the a parameter of the smearing ?
— We used the same method employed in the upsilon measurements in the AuAu collisions. The variation values is justified by observing the minimum chi2 distribution. The same value was used in our preliminary Jpsi results in isobar collisions.
|- s12: could you please add on the plots values of the uncertainties for each of the varied case. 
— done (see them in slides 12, here I used Upsilon(1S) and put the Upsilon(2S) in the backup ).
|- s13: do you vary the cuts separately or simultaneously, and is the final sys. unc. max or RMS value ?
— We varied the cuts separately and take the final RMS value as the systematic value. We made this point clear now in the updated slides.
|- s14: is the final sys. unc. max or RMS value of the variations ?
— We took the RMS as the final sys. unc. We made this point clear in the updated slides.
|- s15: how do you estimate the trigger selection criteria uncertainty, and couldn't it differ for the two Upsilon states ?
— Instead of dsmAdc (online), adc0 (offline) is used as the selection criteria for trigger electron in this analysis. The dsmAdc is a truncated value of adc0 with pedestal subtraction. From simulation, there exists that events are with adc0>300 but dsmAdc ≤ 18, which could be caused by the pedestal subtraction. We conservatively assigned the difference as the systematic uncertainty arising from trigger electron selection. We agree that the excited Upsilon is likely to more easily to trigger BEMC, but the difference should be subdominant.
|- s16: Let's leave the N_coll uncertainties like this for now, to be consistent with Au+Au.
Add from where is the p+p reference. What global uncertainties include ?
— OK. We used the same pp reference employed in our new published upsilon paper. For R_{AA} vs. Npart, the global uncertainties include the total Y(1S+2S+3S) uncertainty (stat. & sys., vast majority global uncertainty) from combining STAR and PHENIX measurements, the uncertainties of yield ratio among different Upsilon states from the world wide data. For the R_{AA} vs pT, besides above two sources, we also include the uncertainties from the p_T shape parameterization.
|- s16: could you please add a version of this plot compared to the Au+Au results. 
— done, see it in sllides19.
|- s17: What global uncertainties include ? They look quite large, I would expect here that they are from N_coll unc., and p+p uncertainties are included in the pT dependent Upsilon unc. 
— You are absolutely correct. We accidentally used the AuAu N_{coll} uncertainty, now we fixed this issue see it in slides17.
|- s18: Add legends for data points and fit lines. Add Upsilon decay channel. 
— done, see it in sllides18.
|- s16-17: Add physics conclusions to your preliminary physics results. 
— done, see it in sllides20.

By the way, I have also seen your reply to my presentation for ATHIC 2023. I am revising the slides and will get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you very much for your patience and very useful advice.

Best,
Gaohan



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